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    Facts can screw-up a good argument...

    Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.

    Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?

    A: The Democratic party.

    Q: Which party increased the tax on Social Security?

    A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the deciding vote.

    Q: Which party decided to give your Social Security money to immigrants?

    A: That's right, the Democratic Party. Immigrants that move into this country at 65 get SSI and have never paid a dime into the system. This is costing us millions of dollars.

    Then, after doing all this, the Democrats turn around and tell you the Republicans want to take your Social Security away from you. The worst part about it is that people forget who did what!

    What can you do?

    Circulate this to remind people so they'll remember it during the November vote.
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    looks like the people have had a say...

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    Re: Facts can screw-up a good argument...

    Originally posted by Strieber
    That's right, the Democratic Party. Immigrants that move into this country at 65 get SSI and have never paid a dime into the system. This is costing us millions of dollars.

    And many (professional and well paid) non-immigrants pay social security and will never be eligible to recieve benefits....
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    Wink Re: Facts can screw-up a good argument...

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Strieber
    [B]Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.

    Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?

    A: The Democratic party.

    Q: Which party increased the tax on Social Security?

    A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the deciding vote.

    Q: Which party decided to give your Social Security money to immigrants?

    A: That's right, the Democratic Party. Immigrants that move into this country at 65 get SSI and have never paid a dime into the system. This is costing us millions of dollars.

    Then, after doing all this, the Democrats turn around and tell you the Republicans want to take your Social Security away from you. The worst part about it is that people forget who did what![QUOTE]

    Q: What party gave us Social Security in the first place?

    A: That's right, the Democratic Party.
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    Re: Re: Facts can screw-up a good argument...

    Originally posted by SandraR

    Q: What party gave us Social Security in the first place?

    A: That's right, the Democratic Party. [/B]
    You consider their plan "security"? If I were to set up a similar plan it would be considered a Ponzi Scheme.
    I take money from you and give it to those who think they are getting back the money they "invested".
    I wouldn't mind having the Government dictate how I invest my money if in the end, I could have the total amount in my name. Instead, over your lifetime you'll put in a sizeable amount of money in social "security" and when you retire the government will give you back very small allocations of YOUR money. But you'll never get back close to what the government has forced you to part with. I would rather see the government do something similar to how we do car insurance in Texas. Yes you must put aside money from your paycheck for retirement. It's up to you where to put it. We don't need government run insurance and we don't need govt. run retirement accounts.....
    The purpose of modern government is to take money from the folks who save and pay their bills and live within their means, and use that to hire government workers; and to keep their power by using the money to buy votes from those who do not save and pay their bills and live within their means.
    JERRY POURNELLE

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