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    Bump. Looking for tire recs.

    I switched riding from BCGB and CP to SATN exclusively. I also have a confession to make, I've been an Ardent 2.25 guy for the last 7 years on my FS 29. I loved how well it climbed, helping clear features I used to spin out on. Yes, it would give me the occasional scare or drop while cornering, but I always thought it was my lack of cornering skills. I always thought it didn't matter much though since I was never fast. So I took my turns slower. However, I now acknowledge that my tire has been letting me down (both metaphorically and literally on the ground). However, I'm afraid I can't quit it. I have lots of fears. Will I still be able to climb technical features without it's stability? I hope my skills over the years have made it so the Ardent is really just a magic feather I am a afraid to let go.

    It's time. I need to work on getting faster now that all of my rides are on SATN and I need all the help I can get. I'm trying out an Ikon 2.2 on the rear while I sort out my fears in the front.

    Can you help me escape my abusive relationship with my tires?

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    Have you considered trying the Ardent 2.4? I'm running it front and back on my FS 29er and it seems to corner well at 22-23 psi.

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    I've been happy with the Ardent 2.4 on the front. Took me a while to figure out a good pressure to run, but have settled around 24-25 psi. No unpredictable washouts so far. I've had them, but it was my dumbass that caused them, not attributed to the tire.

    I made the mistake of running a Purgatory Control 2.3 on the rear and have fought that POS from day 1. I just recently replaced it with a Maxxis Minion DHR II and so far love it. I'm running around 30 -32 psi on the Minion.

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    How does the rolling resistance compare 2.4 vs 2.25? 2.25 is the widest tire I've run, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William_Cannon View Post
    Bump. Looking for tire recs... I need to work on getting faster now that all of my rides are on SATN and I need all the help I can get. I'm trying out an Ikon 2.2 on the rear while I sort out my fears in the front.

    Can you help me escape my abusive relationship with my tires?

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    What bike are you riding... And what is your height/weight?

    I'm asking because I think these things impact tire selection.

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    Do you prefer red heads or blondes? This also impacts your tire selection .
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    Rocks or no rocks?

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    Huge fan of the Bontrager xr line. I like and xr4 for the front and an xr3 for the rear. I also ride a lot of satn and these have been great.

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    What's that shit called when grown men like furry animals?

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    It seems ironic that you are no longer ardent about Ardents and have tired of them. I'm sure there's a French word for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest Borgniner View Post
    What's that shit called when grown men like furry animals?
    Donkey Kong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    It seems ironic that you are no longer ardent about Ardents and have tired of them. I'm sure there's a French word for this.



    Donkey Kong?
    Not really. I ride a different place now and the terrain is 90 percent different. It's much flatter and has less technical.

    I just have to imagine there might be a more appropriate tyre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmceuen View Post
    Huge fan of the Bontrager xr line. I like and xr4 for the front and an xr3 for the rear. I also ride a lot of satn and these have been great.

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    This is the ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest Borgniner View Post
    What's that shit called when grown men like furry animals?
    Don't know...

    But I know what to call grown men acting like little kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William_Cannon View Post
    Not really. I ride a different place now and the terrain is 90 percent different. It's much flatter and has less technical.

    I just have to imagine there might be a more appropriate tyre.

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    I put a well used WTB WeirWolf on the back and it works for me on SW Austin trails. The center tread is worn so it's a little less rolling resistance, but the side knobs are still useful. It's wearing quickly though. I've always thought WTB WeirWolf tires to be quite good... But my experience has only been with 26" size. And I'm 260lbs with gear.

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    Maxxis Forekaster is what the Ardent should have been. There is no gap-of-death to get to the cornering knobs. And when you get to them, they actually exist and work like a normal tire.

    So for SATN, Forekaster Front, Ikon rear.

    If you're a Bontrager fan (I like them), go XR3 front, XR2 rear.

    If Schwalbe fab, go 2.35 Nobby Nic in front and 2.25 in the rear.

    If you like the on/off feel of the Ardent, you could consider the High Roller but it is a much heavier, slower tire. Prolly front only for SATN and only if you rip corners hard. Magic Mary is another beefier tire that's prolly overkill for SATN but offers max grip. I run the MM down there in the summer when it gets dusty and blown out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosmithy View Post
    I've been happy with the Ardent 2.4 on the front. Took me a while to figure out a good pressure to run, but have settled around 24-25 psi. No unpredictable washouts so far. I've had them, but it was my dumbass that caused them, not attributed to the tire.

    I made the mistake of running a Purgatory Control 2.3 on the rear and have fought that POS from day 1. I just recently replaced it with a Maxxis Minion DHR II and so far love it. I'm running around 30 -32 psi on the Minion.
    Curious as to why you hate the Purg so much. I've always had good experiences with Specialized tires. I currently have a Purg 27.5x3.0 up front and Ground Control rear. I don't really have enough time on any other plus sized tires to compare, but these grip like velcro and still roll pretty fast. I've also run Specy tires in 29er and 26er sizes over the year with great results. Plus, for $60, they are a pretty good deal. The only complaint I have is that they seep like crazy (Control casing), but the silver lining is that when the sidewalls stop making little gooey bubbles, I know its time to add more sealant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyal View Post
    Curious as to why you hate the Purg so much. I've always had good experiences with Specialized tires. I currently have a Purg 27.5x3.0 up front and Ground Control rear. I don't really have enough time on any other plus sized tires to compare, but these grip like velcro and still roll pretty fast. I've also run Specy tires in 29er and 26er sizes over the year with great results. Plus, for $60, they are a pretty good deal. The only complaint I have is that they seep like crazy (Control casing), but the silver lining is that when the sidewalls stop making little gooey bubbles, I know its time to add more sealant.
    I actually had run the Purgatory in the past and really liked it. That was about 3 years ago, and I don't think it was a control though. I went to replace it when I started riding again this last winter, and they now carried the Purgatory "Control". My main issue with it, is that I could never find a correct pressure, if I ran it low, it would wallow badly, and constantly burped, if I ran it with just enough pressure to keep that from happening then it seemed like I would have no traction, and the bike felt awkward when turning hard. I just could never seem to find that sweet spot. Also, like you mentioned, it seeped constantly.

    I did just order another Minion for the front and plan to try that when the Ardent dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenblur View Post
    Maxxis Forekaster is what the Ardent should have been. There is no gap-of-death to get to the cornering knobs. And when you get to them, they actually exist and work like a normal tire.

    So for SATN, Forekaster Front, Ikon rear.

    If you're a Bontrager fan (I like them), go XR3 front, XR2 rear.

    If Schwalbe fab, go 2.35 Nobby Nic in front and 2.25 in the rear.

    If you like the on/off feel of the Ardent, you could consider the High Roller but it is a much heavier, slower tire. Prolly front only for SATN and only if you rip corners hard. Magic Mary is another beefier tire that's prolly overkill for SATN but offers max grip. I run the MM down there in the summer when it gets dusty and blown out.
    Awesome. Thanks for the SATN pairing, precisely the advice I was hoping for. I haven't riden a bontrager so I'll have to look into those and I did consider the forekaster. For now, a generous friend hooked me up with an Ardent 2.4 that I'll give a try. If it works great, if not then it should at least be am improvement. Also will be curious on the rolling resistance since I'm SAF.

    Also great call on switching during the summer as the trail does loosen up significantly. Hopefully the rain was enough for some hero to try the combo on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosmithy View Post
    I've been happy with the Ardent 2.4 on the front. Took me a while to figure out a good pressure to run, but have settled around 24-25 psi. No unpredictable washouts so far. I've had them, but it was my dumbass that caused them, not attributed to the tire.
    2.4 definitely has more volume so I should be able to run much lower. I was at 30 psi on the 2.25s and couldnt go much lower because i could feel it bottom out on rocks.

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