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    Headed for Angel Fire next week. First time hitting AF, tips appreciated

    So I have a week long man-cation starting this weekend. My current plan is to head to Palo Duro on Sunday and get in a late afternoon ride and then either drive into the night to Santa Fe or overnight at Palo Duro before moving on.

    I expect i'll be in Sante Fe/Angel Fire area early on Monday. I realize the park itself does not open until Thurs so I'm planning to hit some nearby trails on Mon-Wed.

    Wed thru Sun will likey be spent at the park, culminating with the Scott Enduro Saturday and Sunday.

    I've never been to Angel Fire, but I have done Colorado/etc so I kinda know what to expect with big mountain riding. I guess my question is, what other tips/etc can anyone provide?

    I kinda suck at jumping so I'm considering getting some lessons for part of a day at the park to try to ensure I don't wind up in the hospital.

    I'll be taking my Pivot Switchblade on heavy duty 29" wheels/tires (plus spares). I'll probably rent a proper DH bike for one day of shredding just to see what it is like on a long travel bike.

    So yeah, any other tips anyone could offer to a first timer to the park? I'll be hooking up with some other folks I know for at least part of the trip, but I'm travelling solo otherwise.
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    Hit the Lost Lake trail out of Red River if it is open. You'll climb to 11.5k and then descend the backside through scree fields. It is a proper mtb trail. Don't forget to bring extra covfefe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopers98 View Post
    So I have a week long man-cation starting this weekend. My current plan is to head to Palo Duro on Sunday and get in a late afternoon ride and then either drive into the night to Santa Fe or overnight at Palo Duro before moving on.

    I expect i'll be in Sante Fe/Angel Fire area early on Monday. I realize the park itself does not open until Thurs so I'm planning to hit some nearby trails on Mon-Wed.

    Wed thru Sun will likey be spent at the park, culminating with the Scott Enduro Saturday and Sunday.

    I've never been to Angel Fire, but I have done Colorado/etc so I kinda know what to expect with big mountain riding. I guess my question is, what other tips/etc can anyone provide?

    I kinda suck at jumping so I'm considering getting some lessons for part of a day at the park to try to ensure I don't wind up in the hospital.

    I'll be taking my Pivot Switchblade on heavy duty 29" wheels/tires (plus spares). I'll probably rent a proper DH bike for one day of shredding just to see what it is like on a long travel bike.

    So yeah, any other tips anyone could offer to a first timer to the park? I'll be hooking up with some other folks I know for at least part of the trip, but I'm travelling solo otherwise.

    we already talked on Facebook, but if you're gonna be up there in that area while the bike park isn't running, I STRONGLY suggest you go to rio rancho/Albuquerque and ride white mesa trails. you will freaking love it!
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    Nice! Last year for our trip, someone on Mojo recommended The South Boundary Trail (#164) from Taos to Angel Fire. Lil' Charley and I rode it and had a blast.

    "considered by many to be the premier cross-country ride in New Mexico"

    https://www.singletracks.com/bike-tr...ndary-164.html
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    SBT is super fun. We rode out of AF and got a shuttle back home. I heard it may still be snow covered or have some downed trees.

    Wear elbow pads and knee pads, preferably a full face, and some goggles. Then have fun.

    The basic DH lessons won't teach you jumping. So if you want a teacher for that, you'll have to request it ahead of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest Borgniner View Post
    Don't forget to bring extra covfefe.
    This ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by cramsay3 View Post
    Nice! Last year for our trip, someone on Mojo recommended The South Boundary Trail (#164) from Taos to Angel Fire. Lil' Charley and I rode it and had a blast.

    "considered by many to be the premier cross-country ride in New Mexico"

    https://www.singletracks.com/bike-tr...ndary-164.html


    south boundary trail isn't rideable, and won't be for probably 1-2 months. thats what multiple locals said anyway. just FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seths Pool View Post
    south boundary trail isn't rideable, and won't be for probably 1-2 months. thats what multiple locals said anyway. just FYI
    Booo... This was the plan for Tuesday. I'll have to check out the White Mesa trail options. Park doesn't open until Thursday so I have Mon-Wed to hit non-park trails around the area.

    I'll be rocking the full face, elbow and knee pads. And I'll stock up on extra #covfefe

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    Sorry for the misleading sike-you-out. Bummer.
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    Buy two sets of new brake pads. Put one new set on your bike and keep the other as a spare. Park riding eats brakes.

    I checked the Enduro runs, they're long-ish but nothing to crazy. Boulder dash is the jump line and everything is rollable. Duke - Diesel - Dutchess are more natural/chunky from what I can remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coopers98 View Post
    Booo... This was the plan for Tuesday. I'll have to check out the White Mesa trail options. Park doesn't open until Thursday so I have Mon-Wed to hit non-park trails around the area.

    I'll be rocking the full face, elbow and knee pads. And I'll stock up on extra #covfefe
    Make the drive and don't miss white Mesa. It's freaking awesome! I'd say do 2-3 laps.

    At Angelfire- get yourself a taste of the "real" DH trails and ride upper chillin, upper supreme DH, and World Cup.

    Also make sure to ride chutes and ladders. It's tons of fun.

    Boulder dash is a great trail to practice jumping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seths Pool View Post
    Make the drive and don't miss white Mesa. It's freaking awesome! I'd say do 2-3 laps.
    Great to hear a comment on White Mesa. I've driven past the entrance over a dozen times on my way to Durango and Moab, always wondered if I should be stopping.

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    If you are going to be in santa fe - shuttle winsor trail (approx. 9 miles of ripping mostly downhill xc) a few times and then get some xc on at dale ball trail network (basically at the bottom of winsor). Want some more, hit trash pit (la tierra) for some xc and jumps/freeride. That would provide you a whole day of fun.

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    If you do enough shuttle runs in a day, then be prepared to be sore like you've never been sore before! I went and completed the Red Bull 12hr "Final Decent" endurance DH there quite a few years ago. We essentially did shuttle-runs-to-death. I was so sore the next day that I was just BARELY capable of driving our std transmission car home. I would literally have to pick up my left leg (with both hands) and place it on the clutch. I would wince when we'd come into a small west TX town and see the light turn yellow (signaling that I would soon have to come to a stop). I remembering telling my friend that I could not come up with a way to actually prepare for this kind of riding. Its just simply something that we never do around here. We made the joke that we should combine squats and jackhammer exercises for prep next year.

    You'll have a blast, but its easy to go all-out early and then be roached in the subsequent days (leading to injury). Have fun, pace yourself, is my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seths Pool View Post
    Also make sure to ride chutes and ladders.
    The one with the wooden features! YES! Awesome!
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    You are going to be in Santa fe? If you have time, I had lots of fun riding out from downtown to La tierra.

    We rode way up Camino de los montoyas and dropped in. Followed the numbered signs in order and go over and hit "Hustle and flow" for sure. We did this in the evening and then at the butt crack of dawn before heading out to snowboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    I was so sore the next day that I was just BARELY capable of driving our std transmission car home.
    Sounds like a wild night, but I don't want to ride in your disease transmitting car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    If you do enough shuttle runs in a day, then be prepared to be sore like you've never been sore before! I went and completed the Red Bull 12hr "Final Decent" endurance DH there quite a few years ago. We essentially did shuttle-runs-to-death. I was so sore the next day that I was just BARELY capable of driving our std transmission car home. I would literally have to pick up my left leg (with both hands) and place it on the clutch. I would wince when we'd come into a small west TX town and see the light turn yellow (signaling that I would soon have to come to a stop). I remembering telling my friend that I could not come up with a way to actually prepare for this kind of riding. Its just simply something that we never do around here. We made the joke that we should combine squats and jackhammer exercises for prep next year.

    You'll have a blast, but its easy to go all-out early and then be roached in the subsequent days (leading to injury). Have fun, pace yourself, is my advice.

    Later,
    CJB
    HA! finally someone who understands.. so many people who have never been to a DH park think to themselves and out loud "no pedaling? no climbing? pffff this is gonna be easy!" people just don't understand how much DH riding kicks your ass. your body becomes fatigued in ways you'd never prepare for. your quads and core from squatting and pumping, your forearms, hands, and fingers "arm pump", riding at altitude, and just overall/general muscle fatigue from bombing trails over and over and over, etc etc..


    a lot of people also don't set up their bikes properly either. brake levers pointed way to far down (rolls your body position forward as your trying to reach the brake levers hanging down, also hard to reach when your pushing the bike in front of you), they often have their brake levers spaced way too far away from the handlebars (causing you to stretch your finger(s) out to grab the brake = hand fatigue and arm pump cause #1 IMO), and most importantly - they usually have their suspension set up way to stiff. overly stiff suspension can not only just make your ride suck because its not doing shit as to absorbing the constant vibrations of the trails, but braking bumps can start to shake your vision, and you can also get bounced off rocks, roots and trail obstacles and loose control of your bike...


    and lastly - MORE TURTLE AND LESS RABBIT ON REBOUND (ESPECIALLY THE REAR SHOCK).. DH parks have a lot of jumps, and landings with knuckles. you don't want your bike bucking you off like a 8 second bronco when you launch off a jump, or when you case a landing because your rebound is too fast, and you don't know what you're doing on the mountain. if you wanna tinker with your suspension set up, always start with slow rebound, and gradually open it up if you feel like your bike is sluggish or unresponsive. don't wait until your bike just shot you OTB and your trip is over because you're injured to slow the rebound down

    just my open advice to anyone going to the DH park, but what do I know.....
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    For lift days, we've smartened up and rest/refuel at the truck between runs. I don't bring a camelbak anymore and just hydrate at the truck. It gives you a chance to tweak your bike and plan the next run. 2000' descending is plenty per run. We get to the parking lot early to claim our camp. Seth's Pool is correct on bike setup. My best advice, if you're riding a trail bike like I do, is to go immediately to Clay at the AF bike shop (under the lift) and have him dial your suspension. AF is invested in you having a great experience at their park, so they will help you with bike setup and run selection.

    Last advice (for this post), trust the trail builders! There really are no "gotcha" obstacles on any blue or green trail. The blacks are probably more hazardous the slower you go. Spacing between jumps and landings are farther and meant to be hit at speed. You'll be fine on the blues right out of the box with your skill and experience.

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