View Poll Results: What is your opinion on alternate lines?

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  • There should always only be one line

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  • There are circumstances when alternate lines are acceptable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheif View Post
    Only because of the choice in music!
    Yeah...that was the videos only flaw. To be honest I liked the music though. Not sure it quite fit the video. I think Celine Dion might have been more fitting.
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    So...are we talking about something like this?
    This The Labyrinth at Deception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    Thanks to unclemeat for defending the heritage. Got that one a little late. As for b lines there is a sweet one at st eds if you are on the ridge and hook a left.
    Lead the way sweetheart.

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    >beating a dead horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenblur View Post
    If you didn't build it, don't F with it. If you can't ride it, practice until you can (or walk). The "community" has spoken overwhelmingly on this.

    Other zones in the country may have different local etiquette. In Austin, you don't fuck with the gnars!

    Why do we continually beat this dead horse....
    What this man said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Here's an early compilation of what I think are great points...

    From shredhead... "...If walking a line is difficult or dangerous, you need an alternate line like in cases of big drops, gap jumps, skinnies, etc."

    I absolutely agree with the above.

    From shreadhead... "...Not just a few roots or an 18" ledge or curb-sized rock."

    Well, and 18" ledge that leads into what, or comes after what... Trail features are typically related to a section of trail, and I'm thinking that what is going on in this section of trail is really the determining factor. Additionally, as will be touched on by someone else in a following comment, on what trail (know difficult trails, or trails that newer riders should be on) this 18" ledge is located can also influence the need for an alternate line.

    A "...curb-size rock..." should not be an issue, but it's not the same as an 18" ledge.


    From shreadhead... "...the douches will be out in full force thinking everyone wants braided trails everywhere and they are not doing harm."

    Has this ever happened in the history of mtbing in Austin?

    From Teamsloan... "...if the obstacle is overly dangerous, then fine, add a "B" line. But this should only happen on certain trails."

    Sounds right on point. But who defines what "...overly dangerous..." is?

    From Teamsloan... "...Other trails are known overall as being catered towards more advanced riders. The back trails of the BCGB in my opinion qualify as trails that are not catered to the noob. If you're a noob, do what I did...ride the main trail a bunch and then start exploring the side trails acknowledging that you're going to be doing a lot of walking."

    Again, sounds right on point. But who defines where the "...main trail..." ends and the "...back trail..." begins?

    From Teamsloan... "...Honestly, I think there shouldn't be "B" lines, but maybe "B" loops."

    Or maybe both. When circumstances warrant it.

    From FJsnoozer... "There are lines you cant really walk. B lines are needed."

    Who defines what is walkable and what isn't?

    The above are just examples of thoughts/concerns and my responses to them.

    Please don't be super sensitive and go off the deep end because you think I'm opposing what you've said.
    You know the irony about common sense?

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    Honestly, what the absolute f@ck?

    I wish some of these people wanting alternate lines would get out of tejas and ride some fast, full commitment, high penalty trails and then get back to us about how "hard" it is to ride here. Jesus man, we all have to occasionally walk sh*t, even on trails we've ridden time and time again.

    Are these the same people who mock the trophy generation?
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    Ya know, I don't like the way Old Spicewood Springs Rd winds around. I think I'll repave parts of it regardless of what the people who made it in the first place think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    ...and then get back to us about how "hard" it is to ride here.
    Yeh... Whoever said it was "hard" to ride in Central Texas... What a pussy noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    ...we all have to occasionally walk sh*t, even on trails we've ridden time and time again.
    Yeh... Whoever said they are against walking a part of the trail is a pussy noob.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    ...Are these are the same people who mock the trophy generation?
    Must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMentallo View Post
    Ya know, I don't like the way Old Spicewood Springs Rd winds around. I think I'll repave parts of it regardless of what the people who made it in the first place think.
    Remember to get the approval of the good folk at the City... Who are not the people who actually built the road.

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    Getting furry with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William_Cannon View Post
    You know the irony about common sense?
    “Common sense is not so common.” ― Voltaire

    But then...

    “Common sense is the most widely shared commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it.” ― René Descartes

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    big ol bunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Remember to get the approval of the good folk at the City... Who are not the people who actually built the road.
    Your answer doesn't matter to me because I'm right and the vast majority of road users will approve. Because it's a public road.

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    1. ATXZJ just reminded me that Purgatory needs a b line around the whole thing especially Dante's. That shit is legitimately hard to ride. Maybe break all the rock and fill in the voids with concrete.
    2. I like B lines with skinnys, teeters and jumps as an option ie: Jack Brooks, Pace Bend
    3. Confused about trails sections that can't be walked. Are you wearing roadie shoes? I have NEVER seen this ever. I've only been walking since '76 but I'm pretty good at balance and stuff and rarely fall over anymore.
    4. When doctoral logic fails...I get hit on by a "man".
    5. If you think success of a trail system is bike rental kiosks that charge $50/day for crappy bikes and nowhere to park, then you really really really will never get it.

    6.It's like this, we are high speed hikers. Most love nature, most love good heath and good exercise. Although mtb is a public sport, I35 doesn't still have the same feel and intended usefulness when packed with bumper to bumper traffic. Not to be cool guys club and stuff but think...surfers aren't just going to tell the masses where the best waves are....climbers aren't going to make the routes so easy they can't climb without waiting for hours behind others. People keep things on the down low for a reason. And people keep certain things difficult for a reason. Yes there are public clubs and plenty of help for beginners and plenty of volunteer work to be done and plenty of easy trails but you don't need to make everything easy because it risks everything for the best riders to be challenged on.

    7. Thus, it's unempathicatially clear that neoplatinist views construed to be true by most common plebes are unsatisfactory to the enlightened intellect, thus proving that rhetorical discourse is the sound nonlateral function of said douchebags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    ...4. When doctoral logic fails...I get hit on by a "man".
    Yeh... I've experience that myself on this forum.

    Who was it again that called me "cupcake" or something like that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    5. If you think success of a trail system is bike rental kiosks that charge $50/day for crappy bikes and nowhere to park, then you really really really will never get it.
    Ahhh... But I don't.

    The success of Oleta State Park is found in it giving the folks of north Miami, and beyond, a place where they can enjoy various outdoor activities. Activities that include mountain biking. And being under the direct control of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, how the development of these activities progresses is up to them and those who they contract to do so. It has nothing to do with me or my preferences or opinions of the matter.

    But I understand that in your haste to find a way to support your position you simply assumed you had a grasp of my position on the matter. Which is an error you've made before.

    At least you're consistent I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    6.It's like this, we are high speed hikers. Most love nature, most love good heath and good exercise. Although mtb is a public sport, I35 doesn't still have the same feel and intended usefulness when packed with bumper to bumper traffic. Not to be cool guys club and stuff but think...surfers aren't just going to tell the masses where the best waves are....climbers aren't going to make the routes so easy they can't climb without waiting for hours behind others. People keep things on the down low for a reason. And people keep certain things difficult for a reason. Yes there are public clubs and plenty of help for beginners and plenty of volunteer work to be done and plenty of easy trails but you don't need to make everything easy because it risks everything for the best riders to be challenged on.
    It would be really great if you identified the person who has actually said or suggested "...make everything easy..."

    I sure know I haven't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    7. Thus, it's unempathicatially clear that neoplatinist views construed to be true by most common plebes are unsatisfactory to the enlightened intellect, thus proving that rhetorical discourse is the sound nonlateral function of said douchebags.
    "...unempathicatially..."???

    "...enlightened intellect..."???

    LOL.

    Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    7. Thus, it's unempathicatially clear that neoplatinist views construed to be true by most common plebes are unsatisfactory to the enlightened intellect, thus proving that rhetorical discourse is the sound nonlateral function of said douchebags.
    Took the words right out of my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csmceuen View Post
    Took the words right out of my mouth.
    Really.. You had the word "unempathicatially" in your mouth?

    Yikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Really.. You had the word "unempathicatially" in your mouth?

    Yikes!
    It seemed like the perfect combination of emphatic and unsympathetically. Or is it empathic?

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