Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 28 of 28
Like Tree3Likes

Thread: Looking for a bike...

  1. #21
    MoJo Pope ATXZJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    1979
    Posts
    585
    Quote Originally Posted by redrider3141 View Post
    I don't disagree that the Mission is overkill for those trails but what makes the Fezzari much different? On paper I'm seeing 10mm less travel int he front and 20mm in the rear. (real question).
    From what i can see, the DB is 160/160 27.5 and the fezzari is 130/140 27+ or 29. Not that you need a 130mm 29 for either of those trails but IMHO, it would be a lot better than that diamondback. Looking at the geo/specs, im not really sure what the DB is for and @ 47% off it also seems im not alone. The fezzari with a 27+ would be nice for a newer rider but if they can, go for 29 wheels. Failing that, pinkbike might have a used aluminum tallboy 2 or if possible,3 as it is a great bike for out here and will hold its value for some resale later on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Regarding the saddle position--that's wholly irrelevant if your weight isn't on the saddle. It's the bottom bracket to real axle distance (aka chainstay length) that matters.
    Exactly. This is most obvious to me when trying to manual a short CS vs longer rig.
    16 Process 111DL
    16 Honzo DL
    16 Private Jake
    17 Hei Hei DLc

  2. #22
    MoJo Mother Superior notyal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Wimberley
    Posts
    2,210
    Iím no DB product expert, but I bet they are blowing out those Missions because the new Catch and Release models have more current geo and VPP suspension.
    "living today like it is the first day of the rest of my week"

  3. #23
    MoJo Pope ATXZJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    1979
    Posts
    585
    16 Process 111DL
    16 Honzo DL
    16 Private Jake
    17 Hei Hei DLc

  4. #24
    MoJo Priest Morris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Austin
    Posts
    81
    I got a catch 2 from diamondback, 27.5+ for around 19 hundred , pike, sram gx, race face cranks, ks lev dropper, 35mm handlebar. Nothing came close to those specs for the money. The release 3 can be had for $ 2150 if you look in the right place and that is an awesome bike with great specs. People just hate on diamondback because they have cheaper models at big box stores

  5. #25
    MoJo Priest joroshiba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Austin
    Posts
    43
    Quote Originally Posted by Morris View Post
    I got a catch 2 from diamondback, 27.5+ for around 19 hundred , pike, sram gx, race face cranks, ks lev dropper, 35mm handlebar. Nothing came close to those specs for the money. The release 3 can be had for $ 2150 if you look in the right place and that is an awesome bike with great specs. People just hate on diamondback because they have cheaper models at big box stores
    And because until recently most of their bikes were about as high quality as those. The new stuff does loop pretty nice, basically a VPP with the suspension design. The specs on them are definitely great for the money.

    One (big IMO) downside to their bikes is no inside the frame water bottle. Either eat what your tire spits up, drink nothing, carry a pocket bottle, or carry a pack. I prefer not to carry a pack unless necessary, I know there are people all over the place on that issue though.

  6. #26
    MoJo Pope ATXZJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    1979
    Posts
    585
    Quote Originally Posted by Morris View Post
    I got a catch 2 from diamondback, 27.5+ for around 19 hundred , pike, sram gx, race face cranks, ks lev dropper, 35mm handlebar. Nothing came close to those specs for the money. The release 3 can be had for $ 2150 if you look in the right place and that is an awesome bike with great specs. People just hate on diamondback because they have cheaper models at big box stores
    Definitely cant argue with what you're getting for the money. Keep us posted with the results.
    RidingAgain likes this.
    16 Process 111DL
    16 Honzo DL
    16 Private Jake
    17 Hei Hei DLc

  7. #27
    MoJo Bishop Dr. D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    240
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    My preference is under 17.1 or under. You can tell the difference between 16.8 and 17.8 for sure. In fact that's huge. It's a fulcrum/tipping point thing. My bike has a 17.1" chainstay and I could tell the difference when I was riding a bike with 16.8".

    Regarding the saddle position--that's wholly irrelevant if your weight isn't on the saddle. It's the bottom bracket to real axle distance (aka chainstay length) that matters.
    There is always a trade off when geo numbers move around.

    Short stays definitely make bikes feel more "fun", but climbing can suffer as a result. Nothing that can't be worked around with body position and technique. Same can be said for longer chain stay bikes, takes more effort to get the front up in the air, but that front end also tracks better on steep climbs.

    Riding bikes is such a dynamic activity, with so many ways to get the job done on such a big variety of landscape, I don't think any bike designer has nailed the perfect geo numbers. It's all about what works for you personally.
    RidingAgain likes this.

  8. #28
    MoJo Mother Superior RidingAgain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    SW Austin
    Posts
    1,084
    No doubt just a small adjustment in weight placement (body movement) makes a huge difference when climbing out of the saddle on a trail... And this is easily seen in your own experience when you are heading up and the rear wheel looses traction... You immediately adjust your weight/body position (or should) back so that the traction can be regained. Not a whole lot, because your front wheel will get light and begin to wander... But it's always a kind of "dynamic activity" (dance) as Dr. D said above. And it's the same riding flat singletrack, and I'm thinking with downhill too (although I haven't done any real downhill trails).

    Shoot... There's a dynamic activity reason dropper posts are so popular.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Remove Ads

Search tags for this page (caching method: table)

There are currently no search engine referrals.
Click on a term to search our site for related topics.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •