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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamwa View Post
    got to pace yourself man.
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    Fck No! Balls to walls til the wheels fall off..then pop some ibu, put the wheels back on and repeat..YOLO Mfers! Don’t waste it..peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    Why are you guys posting about Californian regs?

    Electric scooters are flooding California, and they’ll be on your sidewalks soon
    https://qz.com/1257997/electric-scoo...idewalks-soon/


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    Misleading title by kxan. You'd think they just got banned. Nope, they're just in the process of getting permitted.


    Scooters vanish overnight following new rules passed by Council - KXAN


    Scooters vanish overnight following new rules in Austin

    AUSTIN (KXAN) - Hundreds of rentable electric scooters that recently popped up in droves on Austin's sidewalks are now gone overnight.

    Less than two days after the Austin City Council made a tweak to existing city code — making it clear that leaving unpermitted rentable scooters or bikes on city streets is illegal — Bird and Limebike have pulled their scooters off Austin's streets.

    The new ordinance will allow the scooters on city sidewalks if they stay below 20 mph. The new rules also set up a permitting process where those that aren't permitted could be confiscated and fined.

    The ordinance took effect immediately, but the city is still in the process of establishing the license and permitting process. City leaders previously said they hoped to implement the permitting rules by May 1, but it could take longer. Austin Transportation Department employees are working through the weekend to establish the process as soon as administratively possible.

    In the meantime, however, the Austin Transportation Department says if Bird and LimeBike continue to rent out scooters before receiving the proper permits, they'll be in violation of City Code, and the scooters will be impounded. The city can fine the companies $200 for each scooter found on the street or sidewalk, plus impound fees.

    You've probably seen them on sidewalks and in bike lanes in the past month. The idea is that you can use an app to find one of the scooters, hop on and leave it at your destination when you're done.

    "This is new, and it’s exciting,” said Council Member Ann Kitchen, who is also chair of the mobility committee. “So, we just need to quickly update our code. For a long time, we've had in code that you can't obstruct a sidewalk and you can't do something on a right-of-way that will hurt people. So, we are just making it clear that that applies to scooters, too."

    Until Sunday, no one knew if Bird and LimeBike were going to comply with the new ordinance. But now, both of their apps show no scooters available in town.

    Both Bird and LimeBike released statements Sunday.

    From Bird Spokesperson Kenneth Baer:

    "We expect Birds in Austin to be back on the streets within a few days. From the beginning, we have respected the rule of law and we will not operate outside the boundaries of the ordinance just passed. We look forward to working closely with the Austin Transportation Department to obtain a permit as soon as possible in order to minimize any potential disruption or delay in service to the people of Austin."

    From LimeBike Spokesperson Mary Caroline Pruitt:

    “LimeBike applauds the City of Austin’s decision to establish a permit to allow for dock-free mobility in the city. Given this recent progress and in response to a request from the City of Austin, we will be removing our scooters from the streets of Austin effectively immediately while we apply for a permit. We express our sincerest apologies to our riders for the inconvenience and look forward to deploying a multi-modal fleet later this week.

    “Over the past few weeks, thousands of Austinites have utilized our e-assist scooters to navigate the City and get where they need to go. Under this new permit system, we look forward to rolling out a multi-modal fleet to include bikes, e-assist bikes, and e-assist scooters.”

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    Holy crap! 20 mph on sidewalks? Recipe for disaster, I'm thinking. Here's the deal, City of Austin. Start slow (say, 5 or 8 mph), then if you want, you can raise the speed limit. However, if you start high (20 mph) you can never take it back, NEVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    Holy crap! 20 mph on sidewalks? Recipe for disaster, I'm thinking. Here's the deal, City of Austin. Start slow (say, 5 or 8 mph), then if you want, you can raise the speed limit. However, if you start high (20 mph) you can never take it back, NEVER.
    I was shocked too. When I have to or choose to ride on the sidewalk, I only go fast if it's clear and there are no driveways. When there are other users or driveways, I go no faster than walking pace. I agree with you, this is a recipe for disaster!

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    Do those scooters even have a speedo? 20mph into my cankles would feel it. I wonder how many teeth someone could lose at once. Guess we'll find out.
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    Town lake speed limit = 10
    City Sidewalk Speed limit = 20

    COA's brilliance strikes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJsnoozer View Post
    Town lake speed limit = 10
    City Sidewalk Speed limit = 20
    COA's brilliance strikes again.
    Yes, it would make sense to have a speed limit of say, 10 MPH (I still thank that's too high) and require a governor that limits the scooter/mopeds/whatever to that speed and no higher.

    Cat's out of the bag, the horse has left the barn, the train has left the station, the scooter has left its docking spot.
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    Another agitator: dockless electric scooters.

    Nearly hit one going full gas the wrong way in a seperated bike lane on 3rd street (there is one on each side of the street for each direction). FWIW full gas for these is 15mph, guy had no helmet headphones, looked and was behaving like a douche (this adds nothing to my argument except spite, I know).

    Anyways apparently the city just passed some stuff so these things will be totally legit after they get a permit. I mean.... I think dockless is a terrible idea, but also just 15mph electric scooters people use on sidewalks and to go the wrong way on streets is also terrible. Things are advertised as "last mile transportation," didn't realize walking was such a damn chore.

    Oh yeah, get off my lawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    Holy crap! 20 mph on sidewalks? Recipe for disaster, I'm thinking. Here's the deal, City of Austin. Start slow (say, 5 or 8 mph), then if you want, you can raise the speed limit. However, if you start high (20 mph) you can never take it back, NEVER.
    Perhaps we take all of the people on city council and their staff and make them stand in a line while we do a 20mph slalom through them. Pretty sure they'd get the point quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJsnoozer View Post
    FIFY

    Town Lake Motorized Vehicles = N
    City Sidewalk Motorized Vehicles = Bring it


    COA's brilliance strikes again.
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    There are a few of these scattered in the grass near the ball fields on Cesar Chavez on my commute to work.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Bike View Post
    Perhaps we take all of the people on city council and their staff and make them stand in a line while we do a 20mph slalom through them. Pretty sure they'd get the point quick.

    Then we might get a bicycle speed limit as well...

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    So wouldnt that big pit at Zilker park where the endangered salamanders live make a great pleace to drop them off when you are done riding?

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    Yeah and nobody mentioned the potential fires from exploding batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    Well, not the same scooters as in the original post, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmc View Post
    Then we might get a bicycle speed limit as well...
    I'd be cool with a speed limit on sidewalks where people are present.
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    This was on my NextDoor listserve today:

    From Communications Unit Austin Parks, City of Austin

    REMINDER: Motorized Vehicles are PROHIBITED on Parkland and Hike and Bike Trails
    The Parks and Recreation Department (PARD) has recently seen an increase in the use of motorized scooters and electric bicycles on the Ann and Roy Butler Hike and Bike Trail, as well as other parkland.

    In preparation for the busy July 4th holiday period, the Department would like to remind the public that the use of any motorized vehicles on the hike and bike trails around Lady Bird Lake, or public recreational area is prohibited per Austin City Code 8-1-31. The City Code “prohibits motor vehicle(s) and all motor driven devise(s) from being driven on public recreational areas other than a public roadway or in a parking area of a public recreation area.”

    A “public recreation area” is defined as: “a park, recreational facility, athletic field, building, swimming pool, playground, nature preserve, trail, dock, or greenbelt managed, maintained, or operated by the Parks and Recreation Department or on the Department's behalf.” (City Code 8-1-1(11)).

    Exceptions to this rule are individual segways (not groups or tours), motorized wheelchairs for ADA accessibility, and areas designated for off-road bike use (presently, this only includes the Emma Long Metro Park Motorcycle Trails).
    Wait. SEGWAYS? Those things that were supposed to totally rock the universe of personal transportation? Aren't all of us supposed to be Segway owners by now?
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