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    Electric Motorscooter Tours . . . on Town Lake hike & bike trail.

    Someone complained over on reddit about "gangs" (tours) of electric moped riders. Looked into it a little bit, and see that they ride across Pfluger bridge and down the hike & bike trail.

    I try to be open-minded when it comes to "alternative forms of transportation," but . . . .

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comm...d_tour_groups/

    YourBikerGang.com, An Electric Mini Bike Tour of Weird


    Where does this tour go?
    Depending on the tour you choose, it hits different Austin points of interest. Some may include, Castle Hill graffiti park, Willie Nelson statue, Stevie Ray Vaughan statues, University of Texas, famous Austin murals, the famous Pfluger bridge, congress, 6th street and many more. Our tours tend to cover more distance than any other Segway, Bicycle or Electric Bicycle tour in Austin.

    Can my kids come?
    Our tours are absolutely a blast with kids. Unlike motorcycles which legally prevent a parent from riding a small child on the front/rear - electric bikes do not. So you may ride a child in front or in back. They tend to love it! Drivers need to be at least 16. Passengers need to be at least 7 years old.

    Do I need a license for this?
    Nope! No license needed. These electric minibikes are a motorized vehicle, not a motor vehicle. Despite the fat tires and lack of pedals - In Austin, we are treated like an electric bike. This means we ride in bike lanes / side walks / take a lane - in that order. There are a couple exceptions to this rule ( around the capitol ) - but your Road Captain is fully aware of them all.

    Its triple digits! Is it too hot to go?
    Not at all. That's why we don't have pedals. Why pedal when you can cruise? Our Road Captains plan routes that keep you moving and stop in the shade. Remember - the Road Captains do three tours a day at times. If it were too hot they wouldn't make it 😉 They also make sure everyone is stocked with bottled water and often stop for snow cones or a cool down.

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    Yeah, I've come across these groups when I was biking. The "road captain" was pretty much a dick to me, telling me he could ride wherever he wanted. Electric bikes need to be treated like motorcycles, not bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Bike View Post
    Electric bikes need to be treated like motorcycles, not bikes.
    If there's a throttle, yes. If it's pedal assisted power, no.
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    Those look like fun and I am all for electronic pedal-assisted bicycles if that's what it takes to get people outside. Those, however, are electric motorcycles that have no business on pedestrian/ bicycle infrastructure.

    I saw a group of those on the Town Lake trail the other day. I saw a rider trying to start it and it got away. It fell over and it took two people to get it upright again. Advertised weight for one of these minibikes is 128 pounds.

    Please get those things off the trails!
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    I find their lack of helmets disturbing. Beside that, I want one for going to the goat pen.
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    These guys almost hit me driving home last week on Nueces. I thought it was a one time thing.

    How will Austin PD and PARD feel about this?

    Then we will ask them again after the complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    Those look like fun and I am all for electronic pedal-assisted bicycles if that's what it takes to get people outside. Those, however, are electric motorcycles that have no business on pedestrian/ bicycle infrastructure.

    I saw a group of those on the Town Lake trail the other day. I saw a rider trying to start it and it got away. It fell over and it took two people to get it upright again. Advertised weight for one of these minibikes is 128 pounds.

    Please get those things off the trails!
    I cant wait for the first one to go into town lake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjammin View Post
    If there's a throttle, yes. If it's pedal assisted power, no.
    I have finally made my decision on this issue and totally agree with this. And it has nothing to do with me getting closer and closer to the age when I'll need one to enjoy the trails.

    But these frigging things! I can't believe a cop has not stopped this yet. Wrong wrong wrong! Take a picture and send it to Austin Parks, with a link to their website, and see what they will do. Shoot, it even falls into that "can't use public parks for profit" thing like the for-hire horse rides at Slaughter Creek Trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicewookie View Post
    I find their lack of helmets disturbing.
    Me too, I was wearing this when I got hit...by another rider.


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    After my last few rides along town lake, I'm starting to wonder how long bicycles are going to be allowed on the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tip View Post
    Take a picture and send it to Austin Park
    You think Sarah Hensley gives a shit? She's just sitting tight waiting to retire, and won't rock the boat. Whoever replaces her is also probably a City lifer. We need to set Bartman onto these fools.

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    Yeah, way too many pedestrians, dogs, cyclists on the trails for these to be any form of safe. Hope some sane person will shut this down ASAP.

    Some years ago I checked with the city about doing a night group ride (maybe ARR sponsored) around Town Lake during the Christmas season, after the Trail of Lights Jingle Bell Ride had fallen apart.

    The answer was a hard no, because they didn't allow groups to do that kind of activity on the Lady Bird Lake Trail.

    And yes, I think the point upthread about a business using city property for profit applies.
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    1. In this video, these guys cut off the Zilker Park Choo-choo train? NO ONE CUTS OFF THE ZILKER PARK CHOO-CHOO TRAIN!!!
    2. And the guy dabs. Dabs on a moped? Whaat?
    3. On the other-hand, I want one for those long Costco aisles. It's a long way to that frozen freezer section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cramsay3 View Post
    2. And the guy dabs. Dabs on a moped? Whaat?
    I hadn't watched the video so did after your post. It only made me more mad. Made me mad when they took off on the grass. Made me mad to see how stupid to have a kid in front of that guy, even though SHE had a helmet on. And the guy dabbing, for nothing basically, shows how unskilled they are and how important a helmet is for them. So maybe Darwinism will take care of this company soon enough anyway. I mean Darwin's lawyer will.

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    Rule #5 (no, not THAT rule) is of great interest here:

    https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/de...es11-18-14.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    Rule #5 (no, not THAT rule) is of great interest here:

    https://www.austintexas.gov/sites/de...es11-18-14.pdf
    Or 12-A -1-a:

    Commercial Activity.
    (A) Generally.
    (1) Unless a person is specifically authorized to do so by a permit or
    contract, or is acting in conjunction with a specifically permitted use of a
    reserved park facility; a person may not:
    (a) sell or rent a good or service in a park;

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    I finally looked at the video. How can these scooters be considered in any way a motorized bike? I couldn't even see the pedals.
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    Maybe they can tether them to the pedal keg thing like electric sled dogs. Solves two problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    I finally looked at the video. How can these scooters be considered in any way a motorized bike? I couldn't even see the pedals.
    This page breaks it down for you.

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