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Thread: Lights on the New Greenbelt Pedestrian Bridge. Should we care?

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    Lights on the New Greenbelt Pedestrian Bridge. Should we care?

    Hey fellow mojos, I was headed to see a movie at Alamo Slaughter last Fri night around 10:30 pm and saw that the greenbelt was hella lit up from the lighting on the new hike/bike bridge. I couldn't help but feel badly for all the nocturnal creatures that now have to deal with it never going dark at night. Am I wrong? Can the Southies confirm? Does that bridge and trail along MOPAC go dark (on a timer), or is it lit up all night long? I know hiker and other groups can sometimes think we are against nature but riding has made me closer to it. Now I feel bad they never get the good sleeps. With all the environmental concerns of different tracts of land in these parts has no one considered light pollution to be a thing? I spoke with a Trails Foundation woman yesterday who said they mainly deal with the Butler trail and COA has many lighting restrictions. Is that bridge TXDOT jurisdiction and they don't care? Maybe it's a safety issue of humans over wildlife? Most riders at night have their own lights and don't need the whole valley lit up like a hs football game. What do you guys think?
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    Nobody knows if this thing is on a timer or not? Tip? Mack? Bart? Bueller? 109 views and not one nature lover?

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    I don't know. I'm guessing it's on all night. The highway is lit all night. I don't think the little bridge adds that much more light? Don't know.

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    Thanks for chiming in.

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    It may have been a purposeful design so the Golden Cheek Warblers could more easily find their nests after dark.
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    I assume that they are like regular street lights on a light sensor..as far as a detriment to the wildlife depends on the animals..prey have the advantage because they can see the coyotes better..Other than that, everything adjusts to conditions then back to bidness as usual..

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    I haven't seen it all lit up but I think light pollution is just another form of pollution. We should put the light where we need it and only where we need it. I don't think that the critters down there really care that much either way as long as we don't light up the entire greenbelt.
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    I have never seen the light on the bridge 'turned off' anytime day or night I have been there. That said, Austin already has a light pollution ordinance that would apply here. There is not supposed to be ANY up light and all light should be contained to the ped bridge or sidewalk.

    From what I have seen at night - the ped bridge and sidewalk contribute very little to the light level in the greenbelt. I have ridden under it at night before and after the lights were turned on. I can't tell a difference. Most of the ambient light at trail level is coming from the huge street lights that TxDOT has on the highway. And TxDOT does not care what the City of Austin says about the street lights. But that is just my opinion.
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    They're on all day and all night. Judging by the fact they never turn off and that they're burning out pretty regularly (looks like the bulbs are melting the lens), I really doubt that any thought beyond the marginal went into those lights.

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