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    Quote Originally Posted by cxagent View Post
    I am not surprised the BCCP was not mentioned as one of the partnerships. The BCV ranges from Oklahoma to Mexico. The BCCP being ONLY Travis County, was too small to make the list.
    Considering Ft Hood is listed I think itís telling that BCCP was not. I spent most of my life at Ft Hood and I can tell you the land use there is not remotely passive. My mother retired after years of serving as the Chief of MWR and NAPF overseeing the non-military land use. The live artillery range is massive, the areas with active maneuvers with troops on the ground, in humvees, apc, hemtt, earth movers, helos, chinooks, etc is also massive. Thereís no land dedicated specifically to preservation yet the BCV and GCW thrive there, specifically in the live artillery range.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman View Post
    Good! The GCW should be next...
    And then some legless blind spider and some toothless pink lizard.....

    They'll always find a reason to keep bikers out under the guise of advancing development while protecting the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJsnoozer View Post
    Fences woud remain in place until they sold off teh property to developers in teh long run. Its not like someone is just going to open these gates the day a bird would get unlisted.

    The GCW is just a proxy IMO.

    Junebug, Why would susan combs not support this? her constituants have experienced 50 years of not being able to "use" or sell their property for the fair Market value. Our friends once owned all of the land on the top right of Tumbleweed hill... There is some money missing from their accounts thanks to these regs. This is not a battle against MTBers, its a land grab.
    thatís bs..absolutely nothing would happen w that publicly owned property unless someone brought a lawsuit against BCP for not letting the public have access..one thing that WILL not happen is that it would be sold to developers..wow, smh..

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    We can bet a beer on it that there is some development in the next 20 years in areas that are now closed. Remember, a lot of these lands were privately held lands, that were bought by developers anyway and forced to allocate towards protected space. (Tumbleweed hill or end of Wilson Park Ave)

    I would say that the steep stuff that is more difficult to develop is safer, but look what they are doing to lakeway mountain area. Nothing is sacred once the species are Fully delisted off all watch lists. They could just do a land swap.

    This is just my opinion based upon my observation of of how Texas Land use and Various councils and elected officials make decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJsnoozer View Post
    We can bet a beer on it that there is some development in areas that are now closed. Remember, a lot of these lands were privately held lands, that were bought by developers anyway and forced to allocate towards protected space. (Tumbleweed hill or end of Wilson Park Ave)

    I would say that the steep stuff that is more difficult to develop is safer, but look what they are doing to lakeway mountain area. Nothing is sacred once the species are Fully delisted off all watch lists. They could just do a land swap.
    The easements are granted to a holding entity. The holding entity would have to release the easement (not impossible but highly unlikely unless they got something of greater value in return).

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