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    2018 DragonSlayer update

    I just want to share the list of sponsors (in no particular order) providing prizes for the lap finisher's raffle (more laps = better prize opportunities). We have quite a line up!

    Better get signed up. I'll have to cut the registrations off at some point.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/2031161917202765/

    Bike Shops:
    Texas Cycle Werks - title sponsor
    The Peddler
    Georgetown Cyclewerks

    Industry Sponsors:
    Salsa Cycles
    Absolute Black
    Orange Seal
    Teravail Tires
    Lezyne
    Hammer Nutrition
    Fasthouse
    TOGS

    Other Sponsors:
    USA Cycling
    Chann McRae coaching
    Nick Picchetti LMT
    The Donut Palace
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    I think by Nov I can be up to 2 laps and would like to try for 3 - is there any benefit to signing up for 2 laps and finishing vs signing up for 3 laps and only completing 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSarge View Post
    I think by Nov I can be up to 2 laps and would like to try for 3 - is there any benefit to signing up for 2 laps and finishing vs signing up for 3 laps and only completing 2?
    Besides being a quitter?

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    That's right. Plan for 2, do 3? You're an overachiever. Plan for 3, do 2? You're a quitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    That's right. Plan for 2, do 3? You're an overachiever. Plan for 3, do 2? You're a quitter.
    I'll plan for 0, then.

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    Sorry, I was letting my "inner" voice go "outer".... And I know that you were more so referencing rewards and such for which you choose and what you complete.

    However, I do think that psychology (and the mind-game) plays a significant part in completing these types of events. Only YOU know what side of the mind-game equation that you are. But for myself, I need to set THE GOAL....and then work towards EXACTLY that goal. IMHO with something as big as the Dragon Slayer, I really doubt most anyone would proper/plan for 2 laps...then upon rounding out the 2nd lap "decide" they would do another. You'd not have your nutrition, hydration, contact-points, fitness(?), mental state, prepared for for that 3rd lap.

    JT, my suggestion would be to work towards a targeted 2-lap ride in the lead up to the DS event. I'm CERTAIN that some of us will do a DS pre-ride call (for purpose of doing 2 laps). Ride that and see how it goes. From there you can make a legit assessment on 2 versus 3 on the actual DS event day.

    How may times have you done EB? IMHO this is a little bit harder than the EB. The main differences are the CONSTANT pounding you take from the terrain and the fact that you never get a reprieve from all the single track. But I've also found some things that remain constant....people can finish with some prep and determination! The issue for DS being that there is a bigger penalty for 'failure'. At the EB, your always have 'an out'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSarge View Post
    I think by Nov I can be up to 2 laps and would like to try for 3 - is there any benefit to signing up for 2 laps and finishing vs signing up for 3 laps and only completing 2?
    You can sign up for either and go for three or two laps. Just hit the 7am mass start for all distances (mandatory for three lap riders) and go from there. You earn a rock trophy for 2 or three laps, But one says "Baby Dragon" on it and one says "Dragon Slayer". I know which most would prefer. The swag drawing does not change however and goes by how many laps you complete under the timing gates. Complete three laps, you draw three times. The prizes get incrementally better for each additional lap past one.

    Finishing multiple laps will also come down to the weather. If seasonal trends hold, we will have temps in the 50s-70s in the afternoon on 11/18/18. That would make it a lot easier than last year temps on 10/7/17.

    During the first two weekends of November there will be a couple of pre-rides for one lap. Ride a group lap at a 3:45-ish pace then hit a second lap solo and see how it goes.

    Oh and I put a sponsor down wrong. It is Donut Taco Palace I. The owner rides with the TCW Tuesday southie ride on occasion and is going to at least try to bring out some breakfast for us.
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    Yeah, it's significantly different from the EB. On the EB, you can go at a much more mellow pace throughout quite a bit of the ride. LGT just doesn't have that - unless you're in the jeep road section you're getting punished, either by rocks or climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    Besides being a quitter?

    -CJB
    I'm impressed - it took a whole hour for the shit to start

    My goal was really to maximize the swag potential. Sounds like it really doesn't matter which one you sign up for.

    But you're right, Cody, if I sign up for the 2 then I would probably be satisfied with stopping at 2. If I sign up for 3 and only do 2 then it will bug me for an entire year. 3 it is.

    (I'm going to regret that decision)
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    I started out thinking I would do 2 laps. Then I heard that the 3 lappers will get a shirt. I want that damn shirt. If you're going to do 2, just make the commitment and do 3. Or don't...it's more swag for the 3 lappers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSarge View Post
    I'm impressed - it took a whole hour for the shit to start

    My goal was really to maximize the swag potential. Sounds like it really doesn't matter which one you sign up for.

    But you're right, Cody, if I sign up for the 2 then I would probably be satisfied with stopping at 2. If I sign up for 3 and only do 2 then it will bug me for an entire year. 3 it is.

    (I'm going to regret that decision)
    I get that you're kidding, but this challenge is something that gets me excited. I've been planning my lap times, have a couple friends who will crew for me, planning how I will keep in touch with my crew, and all those other details that will make this challenge a success. I also think that having it in November (and starting from Russell Park) are two things that work to the advantage of a successful three lap completion. I can't imagine even ONE lap right now even in the evening, but as it cools, it gets easier. And starting from Russell means that fininshing a lap is done after the double-track and the mile or so thru the gnar to the park. I would rather have the hard stuff at the beginning of the laps (the way that it is) than at the end of the laps.

    I'm going to run a night time lap here in probably early October, so I'll post up and see who wants to join in since much of the last lap will be after sunrise, it'll be good to get a sense for how different/difficult it will be with just lights illuminating the way.
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    Here is a proper flyer by someone who knows how to put on together (not me)

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    It says 27 miles but I don't think I've ever truly reach a full 26 (that I can recall), has anyone hit 27 and can you link your map so I can see if I can figure out what I'm missing? It could be differences in GPS data but seems like a lot.

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    I think you do a victory lap in the parking lot and round it up to 27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    Yeah, it's significantly different from the EB. On the EB, you can go at a much more mellow pace throughout quite a bit of the ride. LGT just doesn't have that - unless you're in the jeep road section you're getting punished, either by rocks or climbs.
    True, but the Jeep road is Hammerfest city for me try to pull up average speed. Cedar breaks I had a nice recovery. I heard Jason and Barry off behind me so I pulled up to have people to ride and talk with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKNTX View Post
    It says 27 miles but I don't think I've ever truly reach a full 26 (that I can recall), has anyone hit 27 and can you link your map so I can see if I can figure out what I'm missing? It could be differences in GPS data but seems like a lot.
    Not without the extra singletrack.
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    Here's the official loop for the Dragon Slayer...

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    You lose a bit on GPS I find on the loop too. I had 25ish miles on the full loop last year too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    You lose a bit on GPS I find on the loop too. I had 25ish miles on the full loop last year too.
    When I rode the lap last year, I did so very very slowly to get a solid track and it was just under 27 miles. You count riding to your car between laps and the short starting loop, and you are at 81.
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    Just a quick update. The jersey designs are coming together and look badass. The T-shirt will be very similar. While anyone can purchase a jersey or T, there will be special markings/notation on jerseys available ONLY to the triple lap finishers. The lead designer at FastHouse is working on them. I should have a couple of prototypes to show off later.

    Don't forget to sign up and sooner is better than later. The event has an entry cap (currently 100 but I am negotiating for more based on a staggered start) and pretty soon mountain bikers in surrounding states will get some invites via USAC, so it will fill up. We already have almost 70 entries already.

    https://legacy.usacycling.org/register/2018-1939
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