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    Hidden Falls Adventure Park Marble Falls, TX

    Anyone heard of this place? I found them on trailforks but they only offer motorized vehicle access but the land looks amazing. Anyone know if they plan on ever building MTB trails?

    Hidden Falls Adventure Park
    https://www.trailforks.com/region/hi...re-park-21822/

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    Just read this comment on trailforks: I emailed Hidden Falls about mountain bikes and the owner replied with this:

    “Some of our guest bring their mountain bikes with their off road machines and that is fine with us. They have to pay the off road fees and they must always yield to motorized traffic. ”
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    I have ridden dirt bikes there but never a mountain bike.

    Now that Shaffer Bend is open to mountain bikes I would go there instead. It is about a 1/2 mile east of Hidden Falls entrance on 1431 off a side road from 1431.

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    Hidden Falls is awesome for Jeepin. The dirt bike/ATV trails are pretty fun too. I wouldn't try and mountainbike out there. There's no single track, and i'd be afraid of getting run over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFROTHUND3R View Post
    Anyone heard of this place? I
    Oh yea. We contacted the management and did extensive scouting for some freeride lines out there ~3 years ago. There is AWESOME potential. The land manager was very enthusiastic (and we were actually looking at lower fees for MTBs), but we had a hard time gaining momentum, due to the necessity of the owner's approval. Between the ATV, moto, Jeep traffic, and multiple shooting venues out there, it was difficult to get attention/approval for dedicated MTB trails. The owner (and to a lesser extent the land manager) were concerned about user conflict and liability - motos running up on MTBs. But, we were allowed to ride our bikes on the existing trails, so long as we were careful.

    Additionally (for those of you who know what kind of trails we build) we talked with them about bringing equipment in to build jump lines. They weren't entirely opposed, but the biggest barrier was LCRA regulation. Evidently, LCRA patrols their property and is very picky about dirt being moved from one place to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeride512 View Post
    Oh yea. We contacted the management and did extensive scouting for some freeride lines out there ~3 years ago. There is AWESOME potential. The land manager was very enthusiastic (and we were actually looking at lower fees for MTBs), but we had a hard time gaining momentum, due to the necessity of the owner's approval. Between the ATV, moto, Jeep traffic, and multiple shooting venues out there, it was difficult to get attention/approval for dedicated MTB trails. The owner (and to a lesser extent the land manager) were concerned about user conflict and liability - motos running up on MTBs. But, we were allowed to ride our bikes on the existing trails, so long as we were careful.

    Additionally (for those of you who know what kind of trails we build) we talked with them about bringing equipment in to build jump lines. They weren't entirely opposed, but the biggest barrier was LCRA regulation. Evidently, LCRA patrols their property and is very picky about dirt being moved from one place to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxagent View Post
    Now that Shaffer Bend is open to mountain bikes I would go there instead. It is about a 1/2 mile east of Hidden Falls entrance on 1431 off a side road from 1431.
    This is the first time I've heard about this place. Looking at the park map, it looks like there are a few trails out there, but nothing shows up on mtbproject. Is it worth the trip out there?
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    Without going into the nasty details on how that place got started. I would highly advise anyone that wants to work with the managers of HF's, to make sure everything is in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddbrider View Post
    This is the first time I've heard about this place. Looking at the park map, it looks like there are a few trails out there, but nothing shows up on mtbproject. Is it worth the trip out there?
    I ride MX bikes out there a good bit. A little less recently just cuz I've been cycling more. Yes the terrain could be great for bicycles, but NO, I don't think its currently worth it at all. The single track (that may be MX only?) has lots of chunk & shake on the trail that wouldn't make for great MTB'ing. This also doesn't take into account being run over by MX bikes hauling @ss through there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddbrider View Post
    This is the first time I've heard about this place. Looking at the park map, it looks like there are a few trails out there, but nothing shows up on mtbproject. Is it worth the trip out there?
    I think you were asking about Shaffer Bend, not Hidden Falls. As far as I can tell, there's no MX allowed at Shaffer Bend. Overall impression is that the trails are probably not very interesting and largely geared to equestrian users (one of the worst enemies of MTBs from a user conflict perspective).

    Here's a link to some pics and descriptions: Shaffer Bend Recreation Area, Marble Falls TX

    I think they have 7-8 miles of trail. With 500+ acres, could be an opportunity to build some MTB-dedicated trails (especially to avoid conflicts with the equine crowd).


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    Now that I am soon to be unemployed, I'm gonna ask the AustinBike Global HQ to send me on a fact finding expedition in the next few weeks. Stay tuned, I'll bring back pics and a full report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddbrider View Post
    This is the first time I've heard about this place. Looking at the park map, it looks like there are a few trails out there, but nothing shows up on mtbproject. Is it worth the trip out there?
    I have ridden it, mapped it and put trail signs on it. The trails were intended for equestrians and hikers. Right now, that is how the current trails ride. I did not see a single horse on the trails, but I may not have been there at prime horse time. A lot of equestrian trails are hard to MTB because of their impact on the trail (hoof prints, loose rocks / gravel, spooked horses, etc). These trails did not have those kind of problems which makes me think the horse are not using them much at all. Feral hogs were a different story. Lots of hog wallows in the flatter areas near the lake.

    If you are looking for great MTB single track - Shaffer is not there yet. If you are looking to ride trails you have never seen - it is worth the trip.The land manager took me to the top of the Dagger trail and asked if MTB's could ride it. I told him "Of course we can ride it but we need a lot of speed to to keep from burying the front wheel". He understood and agreed to make that trail downhill only and prohibit horses on that trail. He showed me some adjacent areas and asked it we wanted to build some 'purpose built MTB trail'. YES WE DO! It will take time but there is a golden opportunity for some great downhill oriented trail there.

    Park map is at - https://www.lcra.org/parks/Documents...n-Area-Map.pdf There is about 6 miles of trail there. The northern part (no contour lines in map) is a lot steeper than I thought. Don't be surprised if you end up walking some climbs there.

    If you go to Shaffer - I suggest combining it with a stop at Grelle and maybe Muleshoe. I think all would be on the same day pass. Grelle map at https://www.lcra.org/parks/Documents...n-Area-Map.pdf I measured about 10 miles of trail at Grelle with the potential for a lot more. And more interesting single track MTB trails too. Don't let the Grelle map fool you. it is an intermediate level trail to get from a parking area to the rest of the trails. Once past the two big ravine climbs, there is some really good technical riding at Grellle. LCRA is working on new maps for all three of these parks that shown the difficulty rating and EMS locations.

    These trails will starting showing up on Trailforks, MTB Project and the grandest of all central Texas MTB trail site - AustinBike.com I heard a rumor that the KOM and QOM for Grelle has already been claimed. But I don't like to spread rumors.
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    Grelle = hidden gem. Kind of a shame folks are finding out about it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicewookie View Post
    Grelle = hidden gem. Kind of a shame folks are finding out about it....
    In this case the land owner (LCRA) is wanting people to find out about it. And to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicewookie View Post
    Grelle = hidden gem. Kind of a shame folks are finding out about it....
    WTH?? That's right next to Muleshoe! Why have I not been notified of this earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicewookie View Post
    Grelle = hidden gem. Kind of a shame folks are finding out about it....
    Hmmm, need to add that one to the site too this summer
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    I ride MX bikes out there a good bit. A little less recently just cuz I've been cycling more. Yes the terrain could be great for bicycles, but NO, I don't think its currently worth it at all. The single track (that may be MX only?) has lots of chunk & shake on the trail that wouldn't make for great MTB'ing. This also doesn't take into account being run over by MX bikes hauling @ss through there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    Sounds like potential for Emma part 2!
    If you can pull off the approval and relationship establishment part, then I think your 100% correct. As someone who rides CP on my MX bike, we all say that Hidden Falls is very similar, its just got a few thousand(!) acres of extra terrain to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicewookie View Post
    Grelle = hidden gem. Kind of a shame folks are finding out about it....
    The cat's out of the aquarium. How are the trails?

    Assuming no connector trails, it's a 4.5 mile road ride from Muleshoe. So that's worth a multi-parker ride next time I come that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosmithy View Post
    WTH?? That's right next to Muleshoe! Why have I not been notified of this earlier?
    Keeping it to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    The cat's out of the aquarium. How are the trails?

    Assuming no connector trails, it's a 4.5 mile road ride from Muleshoe. So that's worth a multi-parker ride next time I come that way.
    Very techy. It’s a bit of a navigational excercise to put a great loop together, but I love the solitude out there. Please stay away.

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