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    Quote Originally Posted by greenblur View Post
    There is a green flow trail going in now. A blue/black flow trail with no jumps is complete. We are working on building two black trails that will be more natural.

    There will be jump lines and huge features. It's gonna take time. This is gonna be a gravity park.
    Sounds like you'll need some expert Barney testing for fine tuning. I just happen to know this old fat drunk fuck, that would be available on a moments notice
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    Quote Originally Posted by yosmithy View Post
    Sounds like you'll need some expert Barney testing for fine tuning. I just happen to know this old fat drunk fuck, that would be available on a moments notice
    Don't forget your Super Slow Sasquatch buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yosmithy View Post
    Sounds like you'll need some expert Barney testing for fine tuning. I just happen to know this old fat drunk fuck,with a itchy pecker that would be available on a moments notice
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenblur View Post
    We are two guys with day jobs working for basically no profit. We're too busy building sick trail and throwing dope ass races to monitor every platform.

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    That. We've been building freeride stuff for the last 5 years and we can tell you that between the doubters, the haters, the drama queens, and everything else, it is a miracle that anything happens. People used to (and still do) ask if it's our full-time job. It isn't.

    We would not have survived if it hadn't been for the ongoing contributions of the local MTB community who wanted to see something new and progressive in Central Texas. TTP is now taking this to a totally new level by bringing LIFT ASSIST to Central Texas.

    If ya'll truly want them to be successful, help them out! If you can't volunteer to dig trail, help with PR, word of mouth, whatever else. I'm sure every little bit helps.

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    350 feet? You sick dope dudes can't climb that? It must cost what - a cool million to put a lift in - should be interesting to follow.

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    Climbing is not the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest Borgniner View Post
    Climbing is not the point.
    I get that, but you could you not just build the downhill runs, save a few hundred thou, and have riders switchback up to the top?

    I read somewhere or other than enduro riders are too unfit to ride their bikes uphill, hence the need for shuttles. Hope this is not true!

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    Most of the fellas around here got fast going down by going up first. Opening a lift in Texas has to be cheaper than making/hoping for snow at the resorts they run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    I get that, but you could you not just build the downhill runs, save a few hundred thou, and have riders switchback up to the top?

    I read somewhere or other than enduro riders are too unfit to ride their bikes uphill, hence the need for shuttles. Hope this is not true!
    Thatís a super broad brush to paint enduro riders as unfit wherever you read that. Enduro focus isnít up hill obviously, but there are definitely some monster athletes in the enduro world. Not to mention that riding downhill is a crazy workout in itself, and probably is a much better test of true bike handling skills and talent than an XC dirt path road race. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seths Pool View Post
    and probably is a much better test of true bike handling skills and talent than an XC dirt path road race. Lol
    Right here is where I have an issue. Be all rad and dope and super hand gesture and flat cap and all that, but let the XC riders be - we just want to ride around. You sure sound like you are a part of the Trail Party cult, even though you say you aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    Right here is where I have an issue. Be all rad and dope and super hand gesture and flat cap and all that, but let the XC riders be - we just want to ride around. You sure sound like you are a part of the Trail Party cult, even though you say you aren't.
    C'mon, guys. We're all on the same team. We have enough to contend with from COA, etc. Riding gravity is tougher than you may think (especially in the heat). The features, mental focus, etc. wear you down more quickly than you might think - thus lift access is awesome to let you push the limits and focus on your DH game. Even riding with pros, 4-6 hours of sending it with lift access can make you prone to injury. Add in pedaling up and you're not focusing on the DH skills you want.

    And I think any decent DH rider has an appreciation for pedaling - a sound foundation is necessary for that discipline and taking some time off to just pedal is good for the mind.

    In the end, everyone's style of riding is going to be better served/protected is we all pull together. It's about growing the scene, getting critical mass, and voices. That's how we'll maintain and get more trail. Not calling you out, Tony - I know where your heart is and you've been supportive. I just don't want to see a P'g match between anybody. If this place is a success, it could really change the way some of our local governments view mountain biking.

    XC/Trail/AM/FR/DH. We're all MTBr's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeride512 View Post
    Riding gravity is tougher than you may think (especially in the heat). The features, mental focus, etc. wear you down more quickly than you might think - thus lift access is awesome to let you push the limits and focus on your DH game.

    And I think any decent DH rider has an appreciation for pedaling - a sound foundation is necessary for that discipline and taking some time off to just pedal is good for the mind.
    As a self-proclaimed XC/Marathon racer-boi, I can sure vouch for this. The most worked-over I've EVER been was the day after riding/racing the Angel Fire Red Bull 12hr Final Descent. I literally could BARELY get myself home (back to ATX) because the car I was driving was a stick shift and I couldn't pick up my legs well enough to shift gears (clutch/brake/gas). I've never experienced anything like it. Not to mention my lats, shoulders, triceps, forearms....I could go on and on. Lift access is no joke, but its also a 'different' kind of no joke.



    Quote Originally Posted by Freeride512 View Post
    C'mon, guys. We're all on the same team..... it could really change the way some of our local governments view bicycles & cycling.

    roadie/tri/XC/Trail/AM/FR/DH. We're all CYCLISTS.

    FR512- I very much like what you said and the way you put it. All the FR/DH stuff ain't my bag, but to hell with bashing any of it. I worked hard at the HH shop to try and help spread a unifying message about B-I-C-Y-C-L-E-S. As cyclists, we are already a part of a tiny little niche sport. We don't need to further sub-divide into even smaller categories and throw bombs at each other. We need to do our best to unite if we want to see any traction or get any respect from places where we need to get things done. Thus, at the risk of starting a riot in here, I annotated your quote above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    As a self-proclaimed XC/Marathon racer-boi, I can sure vouch for this. The most worked-over I've EVER been was the day after riding/racing the Angel Fire Red Bull 12hr Final Descent.
    I miss that race so much. It was an awesome way to end the season. It would kick your butt and make you not miss DH until the next May. I remember the season they ran it down World Cup. To this day, I really don't care if I ever ride that trail again. 33 Laps down that thing is enough for a lifetime!


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    Quote Originally Posted by el gringo View Post
    I miss that race so much. It was an awesome way to end the season. It would kick your butt and make you not miss DH until the next May. I remember the season they ran it down World Cup. To this day, I really don't care if I ever ride that trail again. 33 Laps down that thing is enough for a lifetime!
    I think that was the year I was there? 2009 or 2010? I can't recall my exact laps count, but whatever it was was enough to incapacitate me the next day. I think I got 22nd in the non-pro division and my HH mechanic (who was much younger and fearless) got 10th. On the way home we discussed possibilities on how we could actually "prepare" ourselves for an event like this. We really couldn't come up with much. This was the best I could come up with...



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    I get that, but you could you not just build the downhill runs, save a few hundred thou, and have riders switchback up to the top?

    I read somewhere or other than enduro riders are too unfit to ride their bikes uphill, hence the need for shuttles. Hope this is not true!
    Technically, "enduro" is a race format that actually does include (requires) climbing; shuttles and lifts are downhill riding... with that said, fit or not, why waste time grinding, switchbacking up climbs when I could get in 1-2 extra descending runs in the time that I would be otherwise climbing? Furthermore, descents are much more fun when you are fresh and haven't been spending 2/3-3/4 of your ride time climbing...

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    Looking forward to this new area and LIFT. OMG, its been since 2013 since i've hung my garbage on one of those.....


    For the lift doubters, ive ridden coler in bentonville and by the 3rd time up, im done humping it back up that f@cking hill. The lift will be a welcomed addition to people looking to improve their gravity skillset without the misery of climbing up the switchback/ledge doldrums that pervade the trails here. If you absolutely wanna ride XC, theres plenty of those "trails" available for you elsewhere.


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    Fuck the climb!

    Long live the lift!!

    Will work for lift
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF View Post
    Right here is where I have an issue. Be all rad and dope and super hand gesture and flat cap and all that, but let the XC riders be - we just want to ride around. You sure sound like you are a part of the Trail Party cult, even though you say you aren't.
    I wasnít even really taking a stab at XC riders or any other discipline for that matter. Just stating a pretty reallstic thing that riding enduro/DH is at much higher speeds, much gnarlier terrain, opportunities for disaster, and so on. You get my point I donít need to spell it out.

    and tell me more about the hand gestures you saw trail party guys doing now that sounds hilarious. Some gang those hoots are running! 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenblur View Post
    There is a green flow trail going in now. A blue/black flow trail with no jumps is complete. We are working on building two black trails that will be more natural.

    There will be jump lines and huge features. It's gonna take time. This is gonna be a gravity park.
    If there is enough trail that I can ride it without the lift then I would probably be a regular rider and would ride out there and pay my money from time to time (even if I never use the lift). If this is a gravity-only place and no XC I'd probably get out there only once, just to capture enough stuff to put it on the website. But I'm in favor of what you're doing, anything that helps add more options for the community is a good thing. Just because I may not be the target demographic doesn't mean that it isn't a good idea.
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