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    Carbon fiber clickbait

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    That was and extraordinarily interesting read

    Thanks for sharing

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    Yeah, that's some shady crap where Giant has two companies set up and say 'hey, we didn't make the bike' and the other one says 'hey, we didn't sell the bike'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    First shark week and now this! I'll never swim in the ocean or ride a carbon bike again.

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    most of this was nothing new to me. it's alarming to see how many cheap carbon fiber parts are flooding the market now. no accountability and plenty of gullible customers to buy that crap on Amazon. all of htat junk is going to end up in the landfill and never break down, after it breaks.

    what was new was the lengths to which some manufacturers are going to make and sell this stuff, and then back out of responsibility for it.
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    I know there should be some accountability but I cringe when attorneys get involved..they always seem to jack things up..the white glove & coin trick is good to learn

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    I wonder how many LBS have ultrasonic machines?

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    steel till i die.

    sais the guy who's mantra was 26" till i die..........till it wasn't.

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    Layers of protection is normal for big businesses... And if a case manages to get through... Settle out of court to avoid setting a court precedence... And a possible huge jury award. The thing with carbon and mountain biking is that carbon fiber is taking things towards lighter, but frame design and riding are taking things toward rougher. Now carbon fiber can be made strong, but at what cost to production costs/profit margins. Perhaps this is where the actuaries come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by throet View Post
    First shark week and now this! I'll never swim in the ocean or ride a carbon bike again.
    Beware of carbon sharks.
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    If only we had a local willing to test cheap carbon handlebars to tell us if they're safe...
    won't you be my neighbor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    most of this was nothing new to me. it's alarming to see how many cheap carbon fiber parts are flooding the market now. no accountability and plenty of gullible customers to buy that crap on Amazon. all of htat junk is going to end up in the landfill and never break down, after it breaks.

    what was new was the lengths to which some manufacturers are going to make and sell this stuff, and then back out of responsibility for it.
    I have said this time and time again. If you own and properly manage your supply chain this will probably never be a problem. But, if you don't understand how your products are sourced/built and you do not actively manage the factory, corners will be cut under the guise of saving money.

    The counter to "cheap Chinese carbon handlebars" is "iPhone." China can do a fantastic job if the manufacturer manages/monitors the production. I'd be willing to bet that Giant does a good job, but when you make millions of bikes, one of them is gonna implode, it's just math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    If only we had a local willing to test cheap carbon handlebars to tell us if they're safe...

    Someone with a dental plan....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    If only we had a local willing to test cheap carbon handlebars to tell us if they're safe...
    Hah! I Opted out of that beta testing from the uncommon intellectual advice from mojos..

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    Moderators, can we please change the title of this thread to:

    Carbon fiber... Clickbait....
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    Good read. I actually perform ultrasonics on piping in industrial settings to determine wall thickness/wall loss or defects in general (internal voids and disbonding). Using the exact same type of machines used to determine the carbon bike frame inspection. Maybe I should get some training on the carbon bike side...but would people actually pay $350 per inspection

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza View Post
    Good read. I actually perform ultrasonics on piping in industrial settings to determine wall thickness/wall loss or defects in general (internal voids and disbonding). Using the exact same type of machines used to determine the carbon bike frame inspection. Maybe I should get some training on the carbon bike side...but would people actually pay $350 per inspection
    You could do it for us for free, and we'd tell you how awesome you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheX View Post
    You could do it for us for free, and we'd tell you how awesome you are.
    True. Local Glory > Money

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelza View Post
    Good read. I actually perform ultrasonics on piping in industrial settings to determine wall thickness/wall loss or defects in general (internal voids and disbonding). Using the exact same type of machines used to determine the carbon bike frame inspection. Maybe I should get some training on the carbon bike side...but would people actually pay $350 per inspection

    How'd you come up with that number?

    My guess is that a few people might. But in general, if you could come up with a semi-reasonable number ($100-150???), I bet you could get a nice long line of people signing up. Now that I think about it, you *may* be able to get bigger $$ amounts for people who will be (or have) bought a used carbon bike.

    All kidding aside, this is a need in the market that could be satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron View Post
    How'd you come up with that number?

    My guess is that a few people might. But in general, if you could come up with a semi-reasonable number ($100-150???), I bet you could get a nice long line of people signing up. Now that I think about it, you *may* be able to get bigger $$ amounts for people who will be (or have) bought a used carbon bike.

    All kidding aside, this is a need in the market that could be satisfied.

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    CJB
    That price was in the outside article that the original poster linked.

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