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    MoJoMoRon bartman's Avatar
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    Droppers arenít needed just like disc brakes, suspension, gears, carbon fiber, clip less pedals, bigger wheels and anything else past the first bike isnít needed. they make riding more fun and allows the rider a more enjoyable experience..Maybe itís time to go play golf, not everyone is cut out for adventure sports or age out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTheCatLady View Post
    looks pretty good, but it bugs me that his fork setup technique is so synthetic...it is not based on any sort of riding situation at all. (Unlike the shock setup technique, which at least involves riding off a curb.). For tire pressure, I have an Ardent Race 2.2 at 24 psi on the rear and an Ardent 2.4 at 22psi on the front. That's down from 25 front/23 rear, which is what I have had them at for the 10 or so rides I've been on since I got the bike. I am planning on reducing pressure in both by 1 psi per ride until I feel the sidewall start to give, then go with 1-2 psi above that.

    -cls
    Personally, I would start by putting the 2.4 on the front wheel to see if that helps. I use Ardents on the front and back and rarely wash out--when I do, it is usually user error. That being said, I prefer Nevegals. I found them to be grippier than the Ardents. They are also heavier.

    I'm not sure how much you weigh, but 22 psi doesn't seem like much for a man (assuming you are a guy.) I run a low tire pressure, but I am not very big.

    Team Sloan is right, this time of year is difficult given the heat and the moon dust, particularly at Walnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman View Post
    Droppers aren’t needed just like disc brakes, suspension, gears, carbon fiber, clip less pedals, bigger wheels and anything else past the first bike isn’t needed. they make riding more fun and allows the rider a more enjoyable experience..Maybe it’s time to go play golf, not everyone is cut out for adventure sports or age out..
    I'll just throw this out there...anyone who NEEDS a dropper for riding Walnut is a Fred and probably should go play golf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamsloan View Post
    I'll just throw this out there...anyone who NEEDS a dropper for riding Walnut is a Fred and probably should go play golf.
    I NEED my dropper for cruising the parking lot

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    I always like to cruise the parking lot after a ride with no hands for the ultimate "relaxing after shredding"/"Recovering from almost passing out" look.
    Having the seat dropped makes riding with no hands harder, so I still say no dropper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moc 5 View Post
    Personally, I would start by putting the 2.4 on the front wheel to see if that helps. I use Ardents on the front and back and rarely wash out--when I do, it is usually user error. That being said, I prefer Nevegals. I found them to be grippier than the Ardents. They are also heavier.

    I'm not sure how much you weigh, but 22 psi doesn't seem like much for a man (assuming you are a guy.) I run a low tire pressure, but I am not very big.

    Team Sloan is right, this time of year is difficult given the heat and the moon dust, particularly at Walnut.
    The 2.4 is on the front. I looked at my post again and noticed how similar the tire widths and PSI's are. Kinda weird. I weigh 195ish. I guess I don't ride hard enough for low pressure to actually be an issue with rocks and roots and whatnot. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by notyal View Post
    You can't completely blame a tire, but those Ardents do have a tendency to wash out.
    Ardent on the front sent me sliding down at WC a few months ago. It's never happened before and hasn't happened since I changed that sucker to the back. I thought it was a mental thing based on some similar feedback but mental or not, crashing sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTheCatLady View Post
    RE: Dirtbike armor...I've been looking into those armored long-sleeved jerseys/jackets for MTB but i can't decide if they would be hotter than a short-sleeved jersey + the pads I already wear. The skin coverage would be about the same, but of course there is more substance to those long-sleeved things.

    RE: suspension setup and tire pressure...this is a new bike and my first 29er so I am still working on these things. I have the suspension setup OK I think, but I'm probably not a good enough rider to determine if it isn't. I've looked at guides online, and this one:



    looks pretty good, but it bugs me that his fork setup technique is so synthetic...it is not based on any sort of riding situation at all. (Unlike the shock setup technique, which at least involves riding off a curb.). For tire pressure, I have an Ardent Race 2.2 at 24 psi on the rear and an Ardent 2.4 at 22psi on the front. That's down from 25 front/23 rear, which is what I have had them at for the 10 or so rides I've been on since I got the bike. I am planning on reducing pressure in both by 1 psi per ride until I feel the sidewall start to give, then go with 1-2 psi above that.

    -cls
    I absolutely hate ardents on the front. One of my worst washouts was with an ardent. Nobby nics are pretty fast, not too heavy, and have reasonable traction.

    I dont mind them on the back since it is not nearly as big problem to wash out the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman View Post
    1st off you prob should change your login name..it has pussy all over it..I mean really? 2ndly, it sounds like you need a dropper if you donít have one or learn how to use it if you do..turdly, whatís your address for my personal injury lawsuit due to my eyes bleeding from reading your crying? Bitch, get a tampon..lol. You started it
    Edit: Iím assuming youíre a man..but if youíre a female then I apologize. Otherwise, toughen up buttercup
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    Ride slow and easy until youíre having fun. Go a bit slower than u can with emphasis on regaining confidence. Mentally you likely need some time riding with no wrecks. That crash you had several months back was serious and it can take some time to get back to any semblance of true confidence.

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    Ardent suck, all of them.

    Your front pressure should be lower than your rear especially if itís a larger volume tire. If you are light enough to ride 23 psi in a rear 2.2, your pressure should be closer to 19 front in a 2.4 ardent.

    Try a Forekaster 2.35 front at 21-22 psi. Or Nobby Nic, or Hans Dampf, minion, magic Mary, etc.


    Most importantly, learn to apply pressure on your front tire in turns. The bike should lean but you shouldnít. Let the frame shift beneath your body and lean into your thighs. Get your arms into the attack position with elbows up and outward. Apply DOWNWARD pressure on the bar driving the tire into the earth. If you start to drift, shift your torso forward and apply this pressure.


    Droppers have nothing to do with washout and will only help with OTB if you were to have The seat dropped AND have the correct body position. Just owning a dropper is not going make you use proper body position.

    Coaching may be your wisest investment. Maybe someone is friendly enough to help you, but I wouldnít take advice from just anybody with a nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamsloan View Post
    I always like to cruise the parking lot after a ride with no hands for the ultimate "relaxing after shredding"/"Recovering from almost passing out" look.
    Having the seat dropped makes riding with no hands harder, so I still say no dropper.

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    [QUOTE=MrTheCatLady;1276701]RE: Dirtbike armor...I've been looking into those armored long-sleeved jerseys/jackets for MTB but i can't decide if they would be hotter than a short-sleeved jersey + the pads I already wear. The skin coverage would be about the same, but of course there is more substance to those long-sleeved things.

    RE: suspension setup and tire pressure...this is a new bike and my first 29er so I am still working on these things. I have the suspension setup OK I think, but I'm probably not a good enough rider to determine if it isn't. I've looked at guides online, and this one:




    Have you tried setting your suspension up using the video recommendation? I used this video to set my suspension up to get close to a base point. There's only two settings on your rear shock unless you're running a piggy back. Rear shock, sag and rebound pretty simple. Fork may or may not have more adjustment depending on fork model. Fork, sag, rebound, LSC, and HSC. Sag is for weight support, rebound is to keep tire in contact with ground, LSC is small bump sensitivity, HSC is is for bigger bumps and compressions. Using the method in the video got me really close to what I think feels right for me the only adjustment I made after was HSC on my fork, everything else felt pretty good. In the end set your suspension to what feels best for how and where you ride. Also try this;http://www.shockcraft.co.nz/media/wy...p_guide_v0.pdf

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    Yeah, I am trying to work on fundy skills actually. I have a dropper installed, but I went riding with a friend the other day and noted that, while he wasn't super fast, he could take corners a lot faster than I can. Sitting down. On his fully-extended dropper. In fact, I asked him why he even has one :-). After seeing this, I am trying to work on seated cornering at low speeds just to get the feel of the bike. Although this wipeout happened standing.

    Also, I think I'm going to go back to flats while I sort all of this out.

    -cls[/QUOTE]

    Try cornering with your seat dropped. You'll notice that you can go into corners faster with your weight lower on the bike.

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    You need confidence. Confidence comes from knowing you can do something and doing it without thinking. You are thinking a lot right now. Droppers, flat pedals, new tires, pads, etc, etc, can all build confidence, but not if you're constantly thinking "where's that dropper switch, whoa I'm not clipped in, that front tire is feeling a psi over inflated..." Just take one thing at a time or you could mindfuck yourself. Also, go ride City Park. That's a nice confidence builder.

    Didn't you used to exclusively ride a fat bike? Now you're on a skinny tire 29er? You're just not going to get the same traction and forgiveness out of a 2.4" 29er @ 22psi as you are used to from 4" fat tire @ 8psi. Is your new 29er convertible to 27.5+?

    If you feel that your confidence could be boosted with a fake Chinese college degree or some Korean horse racing, I know a guy.
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