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    Cycling Death

    Just saw another on the news on FM 969 this morning.

    Seems like a lot lately or am I just more aware now?

    Geez I was contemplating getting a R$#% bike for the winter but damn to many wrecks for my taste. I like knowing if I break this or that I have myself to blame.

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    I saw it. I am becoming more and more uncomfortable on the roads in this town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damnewc View Post
    I saw it. I am becoming more and more uncomfortable on the roads in this town.
    well, to be fair, there were a couple of issue contributing to this particular incident:
    1. no helmet: may or may not have helped him survive if he had worn one; kind of moot at this point
    2. no lights: it was 5am and he had no lights; likely had no reflective material, either, but that isn't mentioned; I drive home on 183 (mlk to 71) and frequently see people riding on the side of the road, about 1 sec before I pass them; only rarely do I see helmet/blinky/light
    3. went through a red light: uhm...look both ways before crossing?

    can't say I'd put any blame whatsever on the driver on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carney View Post
    well, to be fair, there were a couple of issue contributing to this particular incident:
    1. no helmet: may or may not have helped him survive if he had worn one; kind of moot at this point
    2. no lights: it was 5am and he had no lights; likely had no reflective material, either, but that isn't mentioned; I drive home on 183 (mlk to 71) and frequently see people riding on the side of the road, about 1 sec before I pass them; only rarely do I see helmet/blinky/light
    3. went through a red light: uhm...look both ways before crossing?

    can't say I'd put any blame whatsever on the driver on this one.
    that's called an inexperienced rider. there's nothing wrong with riding on the road, you just have to be alert AT ALL TIMES and cautious. yes you may get hurt by trees or rocks (mt biking) but road riding is a different beast and fun as hell! just a different experience. since moving back, it does seem that there have been more cycling accidents and that is pretty scary. but that's even more reason to be more alert and more cautious. riding in groups is also a better alternative (safety in numbers). i for one will not stop road riding. you just can't take risks (ie run stoplights which i've seen many cyclists do ). when you take risks like that and do stupid things like that you put yourself and others in danger. i've ridden with people like that and have learned to stay far, far away! safety first!
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    Austin Cycling Association offers classes for road riding safety. Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneezix View Post
    Austin Cycling Association offers classes for road riding safety. Good stuff!
    had no idea they did this. awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carney View Post
    well, to be fair, there were a couple of issue contributing to this particular incident:
    1. no helmet: may or may not have helped him survive if he had worn one; kind of moot at this point
    2. no lights: it was 5am and he had no lights; likely had no reflective material, either, but that isn't mentioned; I drive home on 183 (mlk to 71) and frequently see people riding on the side of the road, about 1 sec before I pass them; only rarely do I see helmet/blinky/light
    3. went through a red light: uhm...look both ways before crossing?

    can't say I'd put any blame whatsever on the driver on this one.
    I saw someone riding on 183 just south of town tonight around 8:00. No lights, no reflectors, black clothes, black bike, riding against traffic, rather far out into the lane. What the hell are people thinking?????

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    When I was driving down to pick up gimpy last week for pace bend I saw a dead body on I-35. But there was no bike. Always a great omen for the start of your day.
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    Riding home on Parmer last week near dusk. I had just got out my lights and turned everything on. I was waiting at a red light at Anderson Mill heading North on Palmer.

    An older guy with no helmet rides up next to me. With barely a pause, he rides right past and swings into the middle of the intersection and starts going the wrong way down Anderson Mill. The light changes about half a second after he got into the intersection. Some cars didn't see him and started to take off. He swung further into the intersection as several cars slammed on their brakes to avoid hitting him.

    I just stared in disbelief.

    I knew the light was changing and I could have called out to him, but it didn't even register what he was doing until it was too late.
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    More people die in cars every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rearviewmirror View Post
    More people die in cars every day.
    Yep.

    We need to ban cars.
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    Just wait. Since Concordia moved out of 620. I've seen alot more people riding with no helmets and against traffic out there. I could of swore one day I saw a kid on a skateboard riding down 620..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnus View Post
    Just wait. Since Concordia moved out of 620. I've seen alot more people riding with no helmets and against traffic out there. I could of swore one day I saw a kid on a skateboard riding down 620..
    This is all good. Maybe if officials and citizens notice that the need for facilities to support cycling and pedestrian traffic are needed in a given location they'll be likely to act on it. Unfortunately, I know it'll probably take a few incidents, including fatalities, to bring notice to the situation. Bwaaahaaaahaaaa!!!! i crack myself up sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druber View Post
    Riding home on Parmer last week near dusk. I had just got out my lights and turned everything on. I was waiting at a red light at Anderson Mill heading North on Palmer.

    An older guy with no helmet rides up next to me. With barely a pause, he rides right past and swings into the middle of the intersection and starts going the wrong way down Anderson Mill. The light changes about half a second after he got into the intersection. Some cars didn't see him and started to take off. He swung further into the intersection as several cars slammed on their brakes to avoid hitting him.

    I just stared in disbelief.

    I knew the light was changing and I could have called out to him, but it didn't even register what he was doing until it was too late.
    Saw the same thing and had to ask "WTF?" I thought invincibility or the belief in your own at least, faded as we got older....
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    Quote Originally Posted by druber View Post
    Riding home on Parmer last week near dusk. I had just got out my lights and turned everything on. I was waiting at a red light at Anderson Mill heading North on Palmer.

    An older guy with no helmet rides up next to me. With barely a pause, he rides right past and swings into the middle of the intersection and starts going the wrong way down Anderson Mill. The light changes about half a second after he got into the intersection. Some cars didn't see him and started to take off. He swung further into the intersection as several cars slammed on their brakes to avoid hitting him.

    I just stared in disbelief.

    I knew the light was changing and I could have called out to him, but it didn't even register what he was doing until it was too late.
    Wow.. what an idiot.

    When we left for Palo Duro Saturday morning it was still dark out . There was a guy riding a bicycle on North 183A (NO SHOULDER) with nothing more than a dimly lit blinkie and no headlight. Sadly, I believe a lot of these cycling deaths we read about are of those who take unnecessary risks. Just like when you take unnecessary risks in a car or on a motorcycle. I'm not saying that it's always those people because there certainly is times when the most cautious are injured or killed. I do find it funny when people say they're not going to get a road bike because of a fatality accident. THINK OF EVERYTHING ON THIS PLANET THAT CAN KILL YOU! If you don't do something because you might do doing it then it's not much of a life now is it.

    Tyler.. if you want to be come a racer-boi, you better learn to love road riding, whether it's on a mountain or road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rearviewmirror View Post

    Tyler.. if you want to be come a racer-boi, you better learn to love road riding, whether it's on a mountain or road bike.
    No you don't. I never trained on a road bike and did fairly well on the mountain bike.

    Nice job this weekend BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpaxc View Post
    No you don't. I never trained on a road bike and did fairly well on the mountain bike.

    Nice job this weekend BTW.
    You're right.. racing success can be achieved w/o ever touching road. But I think it would be difficult to build a strong base riding only trails, especially in Austin where the trails are shorter and technical.

    Thanks! Palo Duro is a great place to ride and race.

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