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    Stan's no tube/hints

    I'm about to do the Stan's thing. I've read the instructions, etc., but from others out there, any hints and tricks I should know before diving head first?
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    Watch the videos on Stans website before you start the project.

    Once you have the rim strip installed, try to inflate the tire before putting any juice in. If you have trouble inflating there are several things to check.

    1. Rim strip should go up each side equally (centered) and be stretched evenly (not be thinner in some places).

    2. Rim strip may need to be closer to the bead in order to seal. do this by adding a layer of rim tape between the wheel and the rim strip.

    3. Use of soap suds helps with getting tire bead to slide into the bead seat and seal.

    4. Compressed air may be necessary if there is too much space between the tire bead and the rim strip. (see 2 above)

    Once you have the strip positioned to where it is easy to inflate the tire, let the air out and break one bead loose and pour in the juice. You'll probably need about 6 ounces in each tire for a new install.

    Inflate and use the technique Stan uses in his video to get sealant up to the bead all the way around. You might need to repeat this a couple of times to completely seal the bead and the sidewalls.

    It still might leak down overnight if you don't go for a good ride immediately.

    Good luck, and may the farce be with you.
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    new tires are easier.

    don't forget to soapy-sudz the bead before inflation

    if using a stan's rubber strip, make SURE it goes all the way to the hook of the rim wall, completely relaxed. no gaps.

    use compressed air. it's just easier.

    don't do it in your kitchen.

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    Do EVERYTHING the video tells you. Be patient.
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    The brass, presta/shrader adapter is handy when using a compressor. I've used a 12 volt,, cigarette lighter type, compressor with success.
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    For difficullt tires, I remove the Stans valve core. It makes a huge hole for air to get in the tire fast. If you have a compressor @ 50 PSI you can blow any tire bead on instantly. The tricky part is removing the air chuck while sliding your finger over the valve hole to prevent loosing air. Then take the valve core and slide it in back in the valve. You can loose a lot of air in the process, but it dosn't take much air to keep the tire on the bead. I use my floor pump/gauge to top it off.

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    Some tires don't want to seal no matter what you do. If tire is loose on rim, use liquid latex (not soap or Stan's) painted on the bead and the inside of the rim to "glue" the bead to the rim. This is in addition to the "Stans" inside the tire. Then use a compressor to get tire to seat quickly.

    After seating the tire, shift and roll the tire around so that the Stan's seals the holes. Some tires will have pin holes that the Stan's will spit out of before sealing. Mostly, you'll have to listen for the sound of the leak & shift the Stan's around to that area to seal the tire.

    I'd recommend a UST tire (with Stan's) for tubeless trail riding rather than a lighter weight tube-type tire.

    Immediately ride the bike for an hour or so at someplace like Walnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nando View Post
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    Some flat tires at the beginning

    And mine were done by the professionals.

    The other day, I pulled out a thorn and watched while all the air came out. Shoulda waited until the bike was free to spin while the goop came out until enough hardened to plug the hole. Then don't let the tire sit with the hole at the bottom until you are sure the hole is plugged or it will leak material (waste).

    Periodically, add more Stan's.

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    Wear shop glasses and a cheap painters type mask.... sh!t's nasty and will go up your nose, in your mouth and in your eyes if you do it wrong.

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    I've had luck mounting a UST tire with a 12V compressor since the bead is pretty tight. However once I started running non-UST tires I had no luck with the 12V compressor since it didn't flow enough air. I ended up buying a true air compressor at Home Depot and now it is a piece of cake. If you are up north near P-ville shoot me a note and you can swing by and use my compressor if you want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat bob View Post
    Wear shop glasses and a cheap painters type mask.... sh!t's nasty and will go up your nose, in your mouth and in your eyes if you do it wrong.
    I wish I could have seen that.

    I use a compressor, but carlos does it with a floor pump, no glasses or mask. What does that tell ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Z View Post
    I wish I could have seen that.

    I use a compressor, but carlos does it with a floor pump, no glasses or mask. What does that tell ya?
    Yes, I also discovered that day that the pressure gauge on my floor pump was broken (Was only reading 20 psi when it blew off the rim). I also forgot to mention hearing protection of some sort. The concussion was equal to a .45 ACP in an indoor range. I couldn't hear out of my right ear for 4-5 hours.

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    i can guess how that went - "man this tire is taking a long time to infla---BOOM!"

    crap like that happens to me all the time.

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    If you haven't made the purchase yet, I'd say go with the Bontrager strips and stems. Snaps in place, removable stems and cores, half the price. But it's you're call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soma View Post
    i can guess how that went - "man this tire is taking a long time to infla---BOOM!"

    crap like that happens to me all the time.
    Pretty much... just figured the air was going out faster than I could pump. I wish I had it on video for one of those "funny" shows. Pictures were ok, but didn't give the full feeling of the day.

    Oh yeah... OP, I have a full bottle of Stans goup... trade you for 2 inner tubes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill Phil View Post
    If you haven't made the purchase yet, I'd say go with the Bontrager strips and stems. Snaps in place, removable stems and cores, half the price. But it's you're call.
    +1 on the Bontragers.

    BSS South has them. Like $5 each for the rim strips, plus $5 each for the Bontrager valves. Ask for them in the Parts area. Be sure to get the Bontrager valves, they're built for the strip and cost less than the Stan's valve. (the first valve the guy brought me was a Stan's UST valve)

    Super sweet and easy install.
    Last edited by Ridenfool; 04-11-2009 at 07:41 PM.
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