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    good job building the trail, very nice work.

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    Definitely an absolute gem. Fantastic option for us Austin-Yankees. Like Chuck I too ride from the house to it and just love it. Great work out and plenty of technical options, especially Western Deception. Can't wait to see the bike skills and dirt/pump track the city is planning on putting behind the skate park. That will be amazing to see and play on as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoa View Post
    When the notice on Cedar Park inquiring about the trails hit FB, I called the parks department and told them how well constructed the trails are, and gave them my contact info since they seemed to be looking for help with maintenance along with several friends. It's important to help them realize what a gift this is.
    Just so you know Cedar Park has no jurisdiction here, these trails are not within Cedar Park. Their city limit ends at the creek. I have heard dozens of ppl say that CP wants to legitimize the trail, the best thing the city could do is contact Wilco and offer their opinion. I'll talk to those of you working directly with the bike project and see if they CP can do that.
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    Very relevant, as last I heard, CP has selected the land around the park as the site for the CP Bike Park. One consideration was the adjacent trails (Deception, etc.).


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    Mixed emotions about how big it's getting/going to get.

    I'd REALLY like to see some more trails up North....there is land, there is the rider base....what the fuck has been the holdup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechniKal View Post
    I'm being an elitist ass snob here, but the thoughts of signage out there scares the crap out of me. The current trail is a nice mix of technical challenge. It's narrow, tight, and has traffic in both directions. If signs are posted making it easy for some of the less experienced folks that visit Brushy Creek to get on the trail, we'll see it sanitized, widened and overrun. It runs the risk of becoming another Walnut Creek - which would be a big loss, imo. Keep it in the down low - let folks who care enough to search it out find it, and preserve a more technical and challenging trail.
    Unfortunately, I've already have to unsanitize several sections (rock stacking) on my last couple of rides. One was what I call "the diving board" (don't know the official name) drop on the west end of Deception; someone put a lot of time and work building it up... pretty irritating, considering there's a bypass, lol. I've also blocked shortcuts etc, only to return to find them unblocked, pretty frustrating. This will only get worse as it grows in popularity, so we need to be vigilant in controlling it.

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    Mixed emotions about how big it's getting/going to get.

    I'd REALLY like to see some more trails up North....there is land, there is the rider base....what the fuck has been the holdup?
    Definitely, especially now that I work at home in Leander, so Austin just isn't convenient for a quick ride before or after work. I was giddy when I first stumbled across this system!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morealice View Post
    Mixed emotions about how big it's getting/going to get.

    I'd REALLY like to see some more trails up North....there is land, there is the rider base....what the fuck has been the holdup?
    liability is one big issue, another is who is going to maintain trails.

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    The section the CP board is interested in developing is the area north of the baseball diamonds at the sports park.the woodef area between brushy creek road anf the parking lot

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    I don't want to see the trail get sanitized hopefully you and rugger will remain a strong influence on trail maintenance and development.

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    [QUOTE=NickJ;1108959]I have not ridden Mulligan, Barn, or Picnic at all. I am super excited to get out there and try them out!

    Deception kicks my butt every time, but I am getting to know it better and better every time.[QUOTE]

    I also had never ridden Mulligan or Picnic, but this is really one of my favorite trails on the north side of town. Made better by the fact that I live three miles away. I'm sort of mixed about the influx of folks its going to see, I cant help but think it will need to be sanitized some, up near the top, on the west side, there are some rock obstacles that will eat some folks lunch if they are cherry to that kind of riding.

    I actually crashed my brains out there a few weeks ago, but honestly, it was straight down a clean trail, i was just fooling around with a water bottle, got off line and endo'd. RIGHT INTO THE BIGGEST PRICKLY PEAR out there. I had cactus spines in the absolute worst places to have them. I rode out the ride, but I was miserable.

    Great trail, and Im down to volunteer time and effort out there whenever needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyt View Post
    liability is one big issue, another is who is going to maintain trails.
    Makes sense.

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    I like the idea of having the trail head on the more difficult entry near the double track this would act as s buffer for the less experienced riders. It would in essence be self governing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    The section the CP board is interested in developing is the area north of the baseball diamonds at the sports park.the woodef area between brushy creek road anf the parking lot
    I've thought of that area, but the payoff is very low compared to the effort. Picnic, some might argue is very low tech, but the LOE to create Picnic was ridiculously low, like a total of less than 72 man hours to create...but there was a little arterial bleeding (thankfully one of us is a paramedic with military issue blood clotting bandages in his camelbak). That is some thick and mostly flat stuff in that area, high LOE, low payoff.

    Oddly, having said that, one of our guiding principles was build to technical and visual features no matter what the effort - do not take the easy route for the sake of its enticingly low effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    I like the idea of having the trail head on the more difficult entry near the double track this would act as s buffer for the less experienced riders. It would in essence be self governing

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    Yeah, I think it's fine as long as the "kiosks" and all that bullshit are located at the actual 2 points of entry instead of down along the Brushy Creek Regional Trail. I've seen too many clowns with no helmets barreling along the Regional Trail at 20+ mph and some even on Deception, albeit going much MUCH slower - haha. I pretty much guarantee that if you ride Deception hard enough times, you will at some point crash, and that crash has great potential to suck hard, even on the easier sections. Hell, I've even had dabs that turned into shitty little falls.

    I think therein lies the natural selection process. Those that don't totally love riding real trail will leave. Those that do...welcome to Deception, where a top shelf skillset, paying attention, and helmets are not considered optional.

    Be safe, and if you see a trimming (i.e. a limb that was cut in the making of the trail) in the middle of the trail, please consider taking the time to actually stop (pause your cheesy ass strava), throw it a few feet into the trees, and keep rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger View Post
    guiding principles was build to technical and visual features no matter what the effort - do not take the easy route for the sake of its enticingly low effort.
    We had a situation like that when building the Pace Bend trail through one of the quarries. The best line went directly through the center of a full grown mountain juniper tree. All agreed so the massive effort was undertaken (thanks Gigantor) with long lasting excellent results. It's the approach to the high bank at the exit of the quarry on teh Wookie Way trail.
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    Nice. Don't mistake "no matter what the effort" if that means destroying an oak or similar hard ward or rock feature. Unfortunately we've seen when others have take hammers to the rocks out there. I just don't get these folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morealice View Post
    I think therein lies the natural selection process. Those that don't totally love riding real trail will leave.
    Or they will attempt to sanitize, as has already begun (see my post above).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugger View Post
    Nice. Don't mistake "no matter what the effort" if that means destroying an oak or similar hard ward or rock feature. Unfortunately we've seen when others have take hammers to the rocks out there. I just don't get these folks.
    Yes. Every effort should be made to avoid impacts to oaks and other valuable native species. I was careful to ID the type of tree we took out (Mountain Juniper aka. Cedar) Probably should have given that more emphasis.

    Also, if trail development can help get rid of invasive species (Chinaberry, Ligustrum, Nandina specifically), remove litter, and inhibit crime and transient camps, all the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morealice View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fine as long as the "kiosks" and all that bullshit are located at the actual 2 points of entry instead of down along the Brushy Creek Regional Trail. I've seen too many clowns with no helmets barreling along the Regional Trail at 20+ mph and some even on Deception, albeit going much MUCH slower - haha. I pretty much guarantee that if you ride Deception hard enough times, you will at some point crash, and that crash has great potential to suck hard, even on the easier sections. Hell, I've even had dabs that turned into shitty little falls.

    I think therein lies the natural selection process. Those that don't totally love riding real trail will leave. Those that do...welcome to Deception, where a top shelf skillset, paying attention, and helmets are not considered optional.

    Be safe, and if you see a trimming (i.e. a limb that was cut in the making of the trail) in the middle of the trail, please consider taking the time to actually stop (pause your cheesy ass strava), throw it a few feet into the trees, and keep rolling.
    Agreed there doesn't need to be full on advertising along the BCRT directing folks to the trail system. That being said it's totally awesome that we can talk about it now on the open forum.

    I personally air on the side of caution when riding deception if you lose focus that's when you bail and bail hard. I believe that this is an opportunity for us to set an example for noobs educate when the opportunity presents it's self

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