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    Quote Originally Posted by clsmyth View Post
    Why would you choose to do that instead of to create a map for a trail that does not have one? Or to improve the map of a trail whose map is NOT already one of the best maps?



    Because I have zero sense of direction. None. Nada. Zip. When I tried to find my way around Walnut Creek solo I became lost, confused, and frustrated. I tried 3-4 times, all with the same result. So then I went out with the Ridge Riders on a couple of Sunday morning WC rides. I saw some trail that I had not seen before but neither ride really helped me find my way around. Mostly because WC is a spiderweb and I could never remember if we took the soft right or the hard right or the left at any give 3-4-way intersection.

    I found my way around WC (blue intermediate route, at least) by using a GoogleMyMaps map I found on AustinBike.com, and an annotated copy of the out-of-date WC kiosk map (annotated by me and shared on this forum a couple of times, if not this thread). I was very proud of myself for having been able to do this considering my lack of direction sense. But I tell you, if I take one wrong turn TO THIS DAY, I will be pretty lost, and might not be able to pick the blue route back up since I have a hard time recognizing any of it unless I am actually on it. And I have ridden WC probably 20-30 times between last year and this year. I can only pick the route back up from BIG OBVIOUS landmarks like features and places where the route crosses the concrete trail.

    So there you go.

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    You rode it 20-30 times but couldn't bother to try and create your own map/directions, but still expect others to create map/directions for you?

    "So there you go"

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    cls you are the definition of a whinny ungrateful little bitch. You already know this of course.

    So, there you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clsmyth View Post
    Get it right, @JMR; I told everyone frm C&D to go fuck themselves because I was left in the woods, not because I fell down. I did fall down, and lost my bike computer, but I bore C&D no ill will from that. And in fact I bear them no ill will for leaving me in the woods - C&D is not a no-drop ride. Didn't realize that, and I apologized publicly. Remember that?

    I don't expect anyone to take care of me when I fall down except ME.

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    Did you fall after they had left you? I'm sorry. It was awhile ago. And frankly, I don't care enough to remember. I just remember you telling them to go fuck themselves.

    As far as your apology, after telling a group of strangers to go fuck themselves, what did you expect? I wasn't even there and I thought, "how childish". You've dug your own hole. Soon, people will ignore you. Perhaps you'll quiet down then.

    In the meantime, enjoy your rides. Hydrate. And, always wear your helmet.
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    clsmyth... I came to Austin in '07, found out that I lived next door to the Sunset Valley trail and decided to start riding again. I sold my '92 Scott Pro Racing frame (beautiful steel) to an older rider who wanted it for cyclocross, bought myself a '05 Yeti 575 off eBay and started riding the trail all maybe mile+ of it... But I'd just keep going around it in different directions so I'd get around five miles out of it.

    Soon got bored and went online and found Walnut Creek and Pacebend and went out and rode them. Wife decided she wanted to learn to ride so I bought her a '01 Giant NRS XTC NRS 1 (you don't need new bikes to ride trails). She loved it and eventually went riding with me at Sunset Valley, Walnut Creek, Pace Bend, Muleshoe, Stephenson's Preserve, and Slaughter Creek.

    No one showed us any trails. In fact we've never ridden with anyone but ourselves. And now, after a hiatus from riding for about 5 years, we buy a couple of bikes and find out from a local bike shop that there is a great trail system in SW Austin. And in fact, we can just ride out our front gate and be on a trail in two minutes.

    Cool.

    So what do we do? Go riding.

    Where exactly we had no clue... Other than having a general idea of where the main trailheads were located, and knowing the compass points, main highway, and streets. To date we've done a combined maybe hundred miles of trail riding in the past month. Again, riding with no one but ourselves.

    A week ago I got a little lost where a couple of trails cross each other in the west trail area (near where some homeowner has lined a section of trail with stones (weird, and yes, if it were up to me, I'd move most of them), between Mopac and Escarpment, but there was someone walking with a dog and I asked him for directions and he pointed to a trail and off I went.

    On Thursday I got a little peeved when someone made a comment on another thread about me being a non-rider... So in my head I thought up a route made up of various trail sections that I had ridden over the last two weeks and set off to do it. After coming under the bridge south of Walgreens on Slaughter Lane, I took the wrong trailhead and ended up riding a new section (for me) next to a dry creek bed. But I knew I was headed west and the creek would lead to the bridge under Escarpment, which is where I wanted to get to. An hour and forty minutes later I had ridden 13.5 miles and got home around 9:15 pm. And this weekend I want to add more trail sections... Between Mopac and Brodie Lane, the Slaughter Creek trail, and the west of Mopac trail section to the route I did, which will give me around 14 more miles. Which should be plenty enough to keep me busy.

    What's my point?

    Mountain bike riding isn't a group sport. You can ride in groups, but it's not a group sport. It's you, the bike, the trail, and the weather. And other people on the trail.

    Sure, find one person or a couple people who you can go out with; it's enjoyable to share your riding experiences, and safer to have someone with you. But if you can't find someone, then just pick trails you're familiar with, are within your skill level, and go ride. And if you think you'll get lost or confused, locate landmarks and use them to figure out where you are and where you want to go.

    At Walnut Creek there is no set route, riders who have a set route have simply figured out something in their minds and then try to ride it. And you don't have to figure out all of Walnut Creek all at once.

    This is how I learned Walnut Creek...

    There are (or were, the concrete walkway has kind of messed me up a bit) five sections to the park... The BMX trail section... The Twisty trail section to the east of the parking lot, between Lamar and the main river... The marl (white stone/dirt) section south east of the parking lot, across the main river, where the back of the church is... The short twisty pine trail section to the west of the parking lot... And then across the main river and to the west is the flowy trail section (my favorite).

    First thing I'd suggest to you with Walnut Creek (or any trail system)... Don't try to ride a route... Ride a section... Stop when you've completed it... Try and figure out where in the park it is you just rode (use a map... I often did... But learn landmarks too)... Then go to another close-by trailhead and figure out where in relation to the trail you just rode it is in the park... Ride it... And at the end of that section do the same thing that you did with the other section.

    By piecing together various sections you will eventually be able to come up with a good route for yourself... No group ride needed.

    Not saying to be anti-social... Just not dependent on others.

    And get yourself the stuff you need (may need) while riding... Again, don't be dependent.

    And ride slowly... There's no race going on.

    And if a faster rider comes up behind you and wants to pass... Let the rider do so when it's convenient for you... Meaning, when there's somewhere safe for you to pull to the side... Don't for a moment think a faster rider has some kind of right of way... And neither does an on-coming rider, as both of you should slow down for each other.

    Two Sundays back I was at Walnut riding with my wife in the late afternoon. Out by the flowy section I was leading and saw a newish rider (you can tell) coming in the opposite direction at a good clip. I pulled to the side because I knew he wouldn't, and as he passed I shouted that there's another rider behind me. My wife later told me that he came around a blind corner, spotted her and shouted "Right... Right..." but he was on her left. She barely had time to get out of his way. People like that don't think they should have to slow down, much less give way. Be on the look out for them, on all trails you ride.

    Hope the above helps.

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    Who gives a shit what the feature names are. Go ride the trail. Deception is not really a trail you need a map for. You enter at one end and exit at the other, pretty simple. The best part is it works the same both directions. If you feel the need to know feature names than name the shit whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clsmyth View Post
    Simple. The ATX MTB scene is a "cool kids club". Membership requirements include participation in trail maintenance and/or sucking the cocks of those who participate in trail maintenance. And the club is not interested in publishing useful, basic information - like maps - so that new riders can more easily explore trails around ATX without having to continuously grovel at the feet of those who already have the knowledge There are various reasons for this, one of which is the legal status of many of the favorite trails, or bits and pieces of those trails. Further, URLs to what maps there are - crude as they may be, in some cases, or hard to find, as the ARCGIS PARD map - won't even be so much as placed in a sticky thread on this forum.

    You're new to ATX, and want to find your way around the MTB trails around here? Come talk to us or fuck off, newb. Don't like that? Well then, TOTALLY fuck off, newb. You're just a whiny pussy and you probably can't ride for shit!

    -cls
    So you figured all this out, but can't bring yourself to do it? I think that means you are making the choice to be righteously indignant instead of being included. Keep in mind it is a choice.

    I dont like to ride with other people. They are either too slow or too fast. I rode with ARR a few times, printed out the map of walnut, and was able to recreate the route using the post #s. I get lost on trails all the time (not deception since there are only a couple of trail splits). I have gone in circles in the greenbelt before.
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    I think clsmyth is trolling.
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    Trail Report: Rain started around 8 this morning. Rocks are slick, trails are muddy. Today's a good day to do some bike maintenance you've been slacking on.
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    I had a funny experience last night. I was fixing the benching close to the end of Carcass Cafe (where theres a big drop off next to the creek) i was using a tiller, something caught my eye so i looked up and there was a guy standing under some trees trying to get my attention. He and his wife spent the next 5 minutes yelling at me because I was disturbing the peace with my "weed eater" and there is nowhere else to enjoy nature within 40 miles. How could i be so inconsiderate for disturbing their walk. They didn't care i was volunteering my time to fix something that was becoming unsafe. Two guys in their 20's pulled up on their bikes and preceded to tell them to Fuck off. Thanks for the back up fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I had a funny experience last night. I was fixing the benching close to the end of Carcass Cafe (where theres a big drop off next to the creek) i was using a tiller, something caught my eye so i looked up and there was a guy standing under some trees trying to get my attention. He and his wife spent the next 5 minutes yelling at me because I was disturbing the peace with my "weed eater" and there is nowhere else to enjoy nature within 40 miles. How could i be so inconsiderate for disturbing their walk. They didn't care i was volunteering my time to fix something that was becoming unsafe. Two guys in their 20's pulled up on their bikes and preceded to tell them to Fuck off. Thanks for the back up fellas.
    you should have just told them "I'm the HoneyBadger, I don't give a shit"
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    Great ride this morning.. minus the 93% humidity.

    Started sometime before 7am, hit deception and a couple runs on snail. The rain started a minute after I hit the pavement back to dodge cattle.. perfect cool down.

    Woke up feeling shitty, almost bitched out.. glad I didn't.

    All without any maps, signs, feature names or cool kids.


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    I didn't have the same luck. Started at 7. Did PicnicX, sessioned some stuff early in Deception (E->W), and then the rain started a little before EBD. Had to bail out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I had a funny experience last night. I was fixing the benching close to the end of Carcass Cafe (where theres a big drop off next to the creek) i was using a tiller, something caught my eye so i looked up and there was a guy standing under some trees trying to get my attention. He and his wife spent the next 5 minutes yelling at me because I was disturbing the peace with my "weed eater" and there is nowhere else to enjoy nature within 40 miles. How could i be so inconsiderate for disturbing their walk. They didn't care i was volunteering my time to fix something that was becoming unsafe. Two guys in their 20's pulled up on their bikes and preceded to tell them to Fuck off. Thanks for the back up fellas.
    Nice. You could point them to Wilco, 7 miles away, not 40, much larger and nobody but deer and rattlesnakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericandrewscott View Post
    I didn't have the same luck. Started at 7. Did PicnicX, sessioned some stuff early in Deception (E->W), and then the rain started a little before EBD. Had to bail out.
    At least you got some riding in.

    For your YouTube channel name (other thread), how about Kool Kidz Klub... definitely with all K's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganderson View Post
    At least you got some riding in.

    For your YouTube channel name (other thread), how about Kool Kidz Klub... definitely with all K's.


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    I'll just name the channel after some secret feature but then no one will find it and cry about it.


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    How about "The Brushy Creek Colonoscopy Channel" ?

    A video adventure tour of the Buttholes
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    Quote Originally Posted by clsmyth View Post
    Man, you really do have a problem with reading comprehension, @yosmithy. I ride the blue intermediate WC route. The route I learned by using the maps already available. And I do not stray from that route even after 20-30 visits to WC because I get lost easily. So everywhere I ride at WC has. Already. Been. Mapped.

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    It's certainly a big scary world out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by clsmyth View Post
    What is the point of this reply? Is it that hard to say, "Whoops, my bad", or to just not post at all? I guess reading comprehension is not your only problem.

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    I'll ride with you. Seriously. I'm slow. I fall. If you leave me behind, I'm coming to the forums though.
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