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    Click Bait Debate

    There's been some talk on Mojo lately about YouTube click bait, Patreon, etc, and this recent news story has sparked some similar discussions, albeit outside of MTB. Personally I have nothing against anybody who can parlay doing something they love into a comfortable living. The reality is that our current culture has placed great monetary value on a "following". For those who can leverage that to create YouTube hits, patreon subscriptions, merchandise sales, etc, more power to you. I have no interest in being a Patreon subscriber when I'm already overpaying for 200 channels on U-verse, or in paying $25 for a t-shirt when I can get a perfect Hanes X-temp in a variety of colors for a few bucks at Walmart. Still, don't hate the "player", hate the "game" - right?

    I had never even heard of the "High on Life" movement myself, but of course my morbid curiosity was drawn to the headline of 3 people plunging to their deaths over a waterfall. After digging in and viewing the memorial post on their YouTube page, I was both appalled and amused by some of the comments there. Seems outside of the loyal followers, most observers feel like these reckless adventurers got what was coming to them. Furthermore, they question why a GoFundMe memorial link is necessary for a group that has been living large off of millions of followers on YouTube, FB, Instagram, etc. Will they use some of those funds to pay for the recovery efforts in this pristine wilderness? Very intriguing thoughts around this incident and the surrounding phenomenon that drives people to financially support others living a lifestyle that they wish they could live themselves.

    While I credit those who can pull this sort of life off, I pause to appreciate what seems to make the "world go around", hard-working people raising families. I've visited some nice places in my lifetime, but mostly I've worked long hours in an office so that my family could have shelter and be well fed and clothed. I cherish the vacation time I've earned and have found enough balance in life to avoid being one of those workaholics who literally dies at their desk. I get high from the laughter that surrounds me, whether sitting around the kitchen table or combing the beach somewhere. I get high from watching my kids grow up and become productive adults. I get high from riding MTB, solo or with buddies, in the neighborhood or in Colorado. Many in this world get high on faith alone, even when facing despair. Point is, living life to its fullest has different meanings to different people, and I for one am perfectly content with the life I've lived, despite any absence of exotic travel / adventure. Anyway, to each his own.

    https://people.com/human-interest/th...erfall-canada/

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    Featuring Jones himself ripping trails and jibbing in the parking lot. I'm can't tell if he's riding 27.5x3 or 29", either way it looks like a fun bike.
    Currently 3.0". With hard work and dedication I hope to see 2.8" maybe even 2.6"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatBoyOnaDiet View Post
    Featuring Jones himself ripping trails and jibbing in the parking lot. I'm can't tell if he's riding 27.5x3 or 29", either way it looks like a fun bike.
    ...but can it ride park?


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    Ok, not YouTube but I was afraid, very afraid to click this one.




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    I'm certainly not seeing a line here, but apparently there is one. Dude breaks his back on a front-flip and then comes back a few months later to do the same stunt plus roll this rock face.

    Name:  Reece Wallace Cliff Roll.PNG
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    Quote Originally Posted by throet View Post
    There's been some talk on Mojo lately about YouTube click bait, Patreon, etc, and this recent news story has sparked some similar discussions, albeit outside of MTB. Personally I have nothing against anybody who can parlay doing something they love into a comfortable living. The reality is that our current culture has placed great monetary value on a "following". For those who can leverage that to create YouTube hits, patreon subscriptions, merchandise sales, etc, more power to you. I have no interest in being a Patreon subscriber when I'm already overpaying for 200 channels on U-verse, or in paying $25 for a t-shirt when I can get a perfect Hanes X-temp in a variety of colors for a few bucks at Walmart. Still, don't hate the "player", hate the "game" - right?
    Hi. As someone that's working very hard to grow what they love doing and sharing into something that could be close to full time eventually, this strikes home. I talk to most of the big boys (and a few girls) in the MTB YouTube niche. Trust me when I say that absolutely no one that runs a MTB YouTube channel is in it for the money, because the amount of work over time is not equitable. I'm not saying "poor me" or that someone can't get huge and support a family off of riding bikes and filming, because people do. Seth, BKXC, Singletrack Sampler, The Loam Ranger, Lenosky, Syd and Macky, and BCPOV to name a few that have quit their jobs to run a channel. Only 3 of those race seriously, not that race purses are equitable either. Sometimes I feel like I'm cheating because I have a leg up (or arm up) and a built-in story. I have a Patreon. I have a Teespring store. I definitely spend hours and hours every week planning, editing, filming, doing my own PR, responding to comments, etc etc. I love it and find it extremely rewarding! Though I'm nowhere close to breaking even haha. The niche is pretty saturated now, but that's only because the biggest channels have grown the sport so much. I wouldn't be filming (or maybe not even riding) if I didn't stumble across a trail that must not be named and then find a bunch of those big YouTube channels. Anyway, it is what it is, and every time somebody reaches out to me and asks me how I have my bike setup because they're missing an arm or leg, or every time someone messages me and tells me, a 38 year old with a missing arm and beer drinker with an umbilical hernia and Raynaud's, that they bought a bike because they found my channel, that brings joy to my heart and makes me want to bust my ass that much harder.

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    to ericandrewscott: you are bringing the joy...keep at it as long as it works out for you, lots of us appreciate the effort and get inspiration not just because of your extra challenge but because you are a righteous dude rider championing the local scene and mtb in general with a wider perspective...wish i had the same talent, drive, spirit...but I and i suspect many are drafting in your wake..much respect and i look forward to future productions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericandrewscott View Post
    Hi. As someone that's working very hard to grow what they love doing and sharing into something that could be close to full time eventually, this strikes home. I talk to most of the big boys (and a few girls) in the MTB YouTube niche. Trust me when I say that absolutely no one that runs a MTB YouTube channel is in it for the money, because the amount of work over time is not equitable. I'm not saying "poor me" or that someone can't get huge and support a family off of riding bikes and filming, because people do. Seth, BKXC, Singletrack Sampler, The Loam Ranger, Lenosky, Syd and Macky, and BCPOV to name a few that have quit their jobs to run a channel. Only 3 of those race seriously, not that race purses are equitable either. Sometimes I feel like I'm cheating because I have a leg up (or arm up) and a built-in story. I have a Patreon. I have a Teespring store. I definitely spend hours and hours every week planning, editing, filming, doing my own PR, responding to comments, etc etc. I love it and find it extremely rewarding! Though I'm nowhere close to breaking even haha. The niche is pretty saturated now, but that's only because the biggest channels have grown the sport so much. I wouldn't be filming (or maybe not even riding) if I didn't stumble across a trail that must not be named and then find a bunch of those big YouTube channels. Anyway, it is what it is, and every time somebody reaches out to me and asks me how I have my bike setup because they're missing an arm or leg, or every time someone messages me and tells me, a 38 year old with a missing arm and beer drinker with an umbilical hernia and Raynaud's, that they bought a bike because they found my channel, that brings joy to my heart and makes me want to bust my ass that much harder.
    Keep up the great work Eric! As I've stated before, I think that aside from your "built-in story" what really sets you apart is your personality, sense-of-humor, and superb editing capabilities. I think it will be this ability to entertain that ultimately sustains success for any channel, even the ones with a heavy established subscriber base. I just recently stumbled on to Sam Pilgrim's page for example, and he is extraordinarily entertaining and unique.

    In my commentary on the HOL post I was attempting to make a couple of points. First was that we shouldn't be hating on YouTubers or other Social Media stars who are able to make money off of their followers (recognizing as you pointed out that most probably don't). Seth from Seth's Bike Hacks is one who does and his success should be applauded even by those of us who choose not to buy his merchandise or subscribe to his Patreon. Second point was more specific to the High on Life movement. They state "we post weekly videos to inspire our viewers to get out and explore the world ….. follow our journey and learn how to do the same". My point there is that people shouldn't feel like they're missing out on life because they aren't following this mantra. Many people die very happy after living very simple, unremarkable lives. Also, societies don't exist because of the HOL gang or the Kardashians. They exist because everybody finds their lot in life and hopefully most can find some level of happiness in what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by throet View Post
    I'm certainly not seeing a line here, but apparently there is one. Dude breaks his back on a front-flip and then comes back a few months later to do the same stunt plus roll this rock face.

    Name:  Reece Wallace Cliff Roll.PNG
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    Reece Wallace’s crash came across my instagram feed. Don’t know if you’ve seen it, but is was very scary. His bike shot about twenty feet in the air after hitting a tree. A whole lot of momentum there. I personally would have a difficult time going back to the location where I broke my back and trying to finish what I started. That’s me speaking as an older more responsible person. As a younger person I might not be so conservative. Either way I applaud somebody with the drive to do something like that. I think that the people who take these kind of risks are just wired that way. BTW that rock face is 65.5 degrees in case you were wondering.
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    Some serious trail building...

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    Dear Mojo Brothers,
    I'd feel remiss if I did not share this with y'all. Obviously, this is a link to a tweet which contains a video https://twitter.com/Mr_DrinksOnMe/st...54003678076929 without ads. Or suffer through this youtube, which is riddled with ads in the middle of the damn video. Same video.
    Please, please let this man be an honorary commentator for the Super Bowl.
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