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    I will go out on a limb here and say that the problem is not likely to be the foods you eat, cardiovascular fitness, or allergies, but excess weight. Imagine strapping the weight you recently lost onto your bike or in your pack and going for a ride. If you thought your fitness level was bad now, it will much much worse carrying around an extra 80 lbs. that does nothing but slow you down.

    I asked the same questions as you, tried to increase my cardio, changed my diet, and nothing really helped me become fitter until I shed an extra 35 lbs. I made very small incremental changes in my diet at monthly intervals (mostly portion control), and tried to make those changes a permanent habit. Increased exercise did not help that much -- about 2 lbs lost initially. I think the key is not to make large or many changes quickly, because those changes are not likely to become habits over the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unibabyguy View Post
    I will go out on a limb here and say that the problem is not likely to be the foods you eat, cardiovascular fitness, or allergies, but excess weight. Imagine strapping the weight you recently lost onto your bike or in your pack and going for a ride. If you thought your fitness level was bad now, it will much much worse carrying around an extra 80 lbs. that does nothing but slow you down.

    I asked the same questions as you, tried to increase my cardio, changed my diet, and nothing really helped me become fitter until I shed an extra 35 lbs. I made very small incremental changes in my diet at monthly intervals (mostly portion control), and tried to make those changes a permanent habit. Increased exercise did not help that much -- about 2 lbs lost initially. I think the key is not to make large or many changes quickly, because those changes are not likely to become habits over the long term.
    i know i have to get my weight down more. my goal is 220. gettin there....dealing with a medical issue that's keeping me from getting there

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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    i know i have to get my weight down more. my goal is 220. gettin there....dealing with a medical issue that's keeping me from getting there
    I understand -- hopefully you are under a doctor's supervision to help you manage that issue. Perhaps the next time you see the doctor, you can ask him/her whether it'd be OK to make small changes to your diet. The way I started out was bringing a banana to work each day. That was it. I did that for a month and eventually it became a habit. Then I added an apple, and trained myself to make that a habit over the months. Then added some unsalted nuts when the apple was made a habit. These are all healthy and filling foods that allowed me to eat less and less at major meals without being left hungry. The nuts in particular are very helpful because you can eat just enough quantity to stave off the hunger without over-eating. I eat 1 lb of almonds now each week and don't gain any weight because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unibabyguy View Post
    I understand -- hopefully you are under a doctor's supervision to help you manage that issue. Perhaps the next time you see the doctor, you can ask him/her whether it'd be OK to make small changes to your diet. The way I started out was bringing a banana to work each day. That was it. I did that for a month and eventually it became a habit. Then I added an apple, and trained myself to make that a habit over the months. Then added some unsalted nuts when the apple was made a habit. These are all healthy and filling foods that allowed me to eat less and less at major meals without being left hungry. The nuts in particular are very helpful because you can eat just enough quantity to stave off the hunger without over-eating. I eat 1 lb of almonds now each week and don't gain any weight because of it.
    my diet (except for this weekend) is pretty good. Big on fruits and veggies, low on carbs and no red meat. Diary is my one HUGE issue. i love cheese of all kinds, but i gotta get away from it. Drink little to no soda, but have developed a little coffee habit (shameful).

    It's basically my thyroid messin with me. yeah, working with a dr on it.

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    Yes, keep losing weight, that's great and will help... but "low on carbs" is pretty much the beginning and end of answering the original question in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    Big on fruits
    Quote Originally Posted by guided View Post
    Yes, keep losing weight, that's great and will help... but "low on carbs" is pretty much the beginning and end of answering the original question in this thread.
    You can't be low on carbs and big on fruit! Doesn't work that way, as fruit is still sugar, albeit in the form of fructose. I would suggest you look up paleo diet, and move in that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplemind View Post
    You can't be low on carbs and big on fruit! Doesn't work that way, as fruit is still sugar, albeit in the form of fructose. I would suggest you look up paleo diet, and move in that direction.
    chiropractor suggested it... it's been on my mind, just need to follow through with it.

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    Well, cheese is the food of the gods. Hard to pass up. Yes, the thyroid can give you fits until you have it dialed in. Not reading anywhere that a little coffee is bad...it does have some health benefits. That said, I've never drank coffee, but lots of tea.

    Don't know too much about the specifics of the paleo diet but keep in mind that modern poultry, cows and pigs are bred to put on a lot of weight in the form of fat FAST.... and we're eating them. This is true whether we are eating critters on a grass fed, organic diet or not.

    You can turn to the google to get very specific information on pre-historic diets of hunter-gatherers, including information from areas not more than 130 miles away from Austin.

    So for starters, an interesting article discussing the gut biomes from mummies (including two from the Trans-Pecos area in West Texas) can be found here. Informative and interesting.

    And if you're really curious about the dietary habits of the Hinds Cave residents in the Trans Pecos area of West Texas 2000 years ago, you just do a sophisticated analysis of their mummified poop. Full text with analysis here, but this is the gist of the article:

    The diversity of both meat and plants ingested by the Archaic inhabitants of Hinds Cave is noteworthy. Sample I contained evidence of four animals (pronghorn antelope, cottontail rabbit, packrat, and squirrel) and four plants (hackberry, sunflower family, yucca or agave, and opuntia [cacti]), sample II contained two animals (packrats and fish) and six plants (hackberry, oak, sunflower family, yucca or agave, nightshade family, and legume family), and sample III contained three animals (bighorn sheep, packrat, and cotton rat) and eight different plants (Buckthorn family, hackberry, oak, sunflower family, yucca or agave, legume family, ocotillo, and opuntia). This represents a remarkably rich diet. Other evidence also indicates that the diet of these prehistoric hunter-gatherers included a considerable diversity of plants and animals. Thus, as compared with individuals dependent on agriculture, the diet of the Hinds Cave hunter-gatherers seems to have been more varied and nutritionally sound.

    Keep in mind that hunter-gatherers just ate what they found; essentially consuming the landscape -- insects, reptiles (snakes, frogs, lizards), small mammals, grass seeds, fruit, cactus, acorns, fish, big mammals, whatever was safely edible. Also, I'll just assume that ALL parts of small and large mammals were eaten -- organ meats, blood, all of it.

    Anyway, just some food for thought when we try to emulate ancient dietary habits.

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    Lots of mentions of agave. I knew it. Those paleolithic mofos were making Mexkin Martinis way before Trudy's figured it out. Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    my diet (except for this weekend) is pretty good. Big on fruits and veggies, low on carbs and no red meat. Diary is my one HUGE issue. i love cheese of all kinds, but i gotta get away from it. Drink little to no soda, but have developed a little coffee habit (shameful).

    It's basically my thyroid messin with me. yeah, working with a dr on it.
    What unibabyguy said +1.

    I personally believe in a balanced reasonable diet. I like food (including cheese) so I don't deny myself anything as long as I watch my portions and calorie balance for the day or week. Fitbit + kitchen scale and those kind of things have helped some of my friends. I love a good burger and any kind of diet that said I couldn't eat red meat at least once in a while is unreasonable and unrealistic long term (ie for life) to me. Same for bread and cheese. I go for quality instead of quantity when it comes to meats and cheeses, because the variety is delicious, and because the price will limit how much you buy. This comment is from someone dealing with Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

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    I know some packrats but I definitely would not eat them. Maybe help 'em clean out the garage or something though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioGG View Post
    What unibabyguy said +1.

    I personally believe in a balanced reasonable diet. I like food (including cheese) so I don't deny myself anything as long as I watch my portions and calorie balance for the day or week. Fitbit + kitchen scale and those kind of things have helped some of my friends. I love a good burger and any kind of diet that said I couldn't eat red meat at least once in a while is unreasonable and unrealistic long term (ie for life) to me. Same for bread and cheese. I go for quality instead of quantity when it comes to meats and cheeses, because the variety is delicious, and because the price will limit how much you buy. This comment is from someone dealing with Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
    been looking into the fitbit, but decided to go on another juice fast on 2/1. juicing is what initially helped me drop all the weight and it's been a good year since ive done a "re-boot".

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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    but decided to go on another juice fast on 2/1.
    Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't seem like a good way to increase energy.
    guided likes this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wumpus View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't seem like a good way to increase energy.
    its more of a detox. gotta feel like crap for a few days before i feel like superman. last time i felt on top of the world.

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