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    Having not yet been on any of the MTB trails in the area of the veloway, my question might sound foolish... But why would someone riding the MTB trails in that area want to go on the veloway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Having not yet been on any of the MTB trails in the area of the veloway, my question might sound foolish... But why would someone riding the MTB trails in that area want to go on the veloway?
    One reason that I use to go on the Veloway was so that I would not have to repeat trail as there was only one dirt way to connect Gravel Crossing to the Bowie Sidewalk. But after we were informed that we were bringing rocks and mud onto the skater's surface, another trail got developed to enable a way to use dirt two ways, instead of having to use the pavement. Now there really is no reason to go up on the pavement except to get some extra miles in. I see folks on Strava doing that. But they are always using the proper entrances.

    I was surprised when I received the above email. I thought that the "mountain bike problem" had been cured. But I am absolutely certain that it is way less than it was before.

    Like cxagent says, if you see someone, educate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Having not yet been on any of the MTB trails in the area of the veloway, my question might sound foolish... But why would someone riding the MTB trails in that area want to go on the veloway?
    I think that a lot (most?) of the traffic from people using the trail to access the Veloway is people traversing the neighborhood on foot or by bicycle, not mountain bikers on a recreational ride. I would think that most mountain bikers have no interest in cruising Veloway, but people walking dogs or using those routes to get to school or work are just using the most efficient route available, which happens to result in a conflict of interest. I have attempted to block the offending routes with piles of logs and others have erected signs to ward off trespassers, but some people just can't be bothered with decency and respect for other trail users.
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    Trail Work Day tomorrow (Saturday 6/10/17) at Slaughter Creek Trail. We need one more truck to haul dirt from one side of the land to the other. I will have my truck there but we need a second to shuttle back and forth. Can you help us? More info at https://www.meetup.com/mountainbikes...nts/240410966/

    Reminder - the trail will be closed from 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM during the trail work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Ridge Riders View Post
    Trail Work Day tomorrow (Saturday 6/10/17) at Slaughter Creek Trail. We need one more truck to haul dirt from one side of the land to the other. I will have my truck there but we need a second to shuttle back and forth. Can you help us? More info at https://www.meetup.com/mountainbikes...nts/240410966/

    Reminder - the trail will be closed from 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM during the trail work.
    Is this why the trail was closed today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tip View Post
    Do you mean Bauerle? I've weed-eated in there, and also the Canterbury Loop east of Manchaca, a lot. Nobody has ever come and told me to stop!
    Go for it. We shall all sing your praises.
    Not sure, i was referring to a small section between where i drop in at manchaca and brodie ln.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hill country View Post
    Is this why the trail was closed today?
    It was closed today ( and yesterday and the day before, etc.) due to the rain on Monday evening. It was still too wet (in spots) to open the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froman View Post
    Not sure, i was referring to a small section between where i drop in at manchaca and brodie ln.
    It's about a mile between Manchaca and Brodie, so that covers a lot of territory. I'm trying to visualize where you come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hill country View Post
    Is this why the trail was closed today?
    Slaughter Creek stays closed for a while after a rain. No worries, I just keep pedalling up 1826 if I go by and find that it's closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    Slaughter Creek stays closed for a while after a rain. No worries, I just keep pedalling up 1826 if I go by and find that it's closed.
    A good 1 mile, 150' climb. SATN got hills!

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    Question...

    I rode the trail that is behind the Circle C soccer fields... From the Escarpment trailhead (south, nearer to the green grass area that's next to the homes) right through to the fence that borders Slaughter Creek Preserve.

    I had no problem riding it, except for a few corners where large rocks seemed to have been deliberately placed in the apex of the corner to make it more difficult (very difficult in my case, I'm a clydesdale on a xl bike) to negotiate these corners.

    I guess some riders can just go over these rocks, and others can slow right down and work their way through these corners... But I stopped and took a good look walking my bike through them, and it pretty much requires me to stop and dab/walk my way through them. Which kind of sucks given that the rest of the trail is somewhat difficult in parts, but doable for me. Having to stop kind of puts a damper on the effort.

    Also, I'd like my wife to ride through the trail with me, and I believe she can, but though much smaller than me and on a smaller bike, would also not be able to negotiate those few corners without stopping.

    So... My question is... Would it be out of place for me to cut/make a short bypass around those few sections? Nothing extravagant... Just an "intermediate" trail option.

    I took some time to see if it would be possible and it is. The immediate areas around these particular corners are pretty clear and somewhat flat, so building an alternative route wouldn't be so hard, or require any defacing of the natural surroundings.

    From off the top of my head, I think it would be required at thre or four spots, and take about maximum 10-15 feet of trail in each case.

    Would this be possible for me to do without upsetting anyone?

    I'm not asking for the current trail set up to be changed as there are riders who are fine with it.

    Thanks for the feedback.
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    If you move those rocks and sanitize the trail, you will get your ass kicked. I cannot comment on a "B line" option, but those difficult sections are what makes that trail fun and challenging.

    that trail is not sanctioned and probably should not be discussed in a public forum anyways.
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    I really don't see why getting off the bike to walk a section / feature/ obstacle that you can't ride is such a problem? Is it really so inconvenient? To me, having to walk things once in a while is all part of the sport. If it's the section I'm thinking of, four bypasses in that less than half a mile seems excessive. When in doubt, ride more and sanitize less...
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    Yeh... I'm not into upsetting anyone... But there is a difference between difficult and not able. And given the space around for a "B line" it doesn't seem to be a big ask.

    And if my question is inappropriate re. unsanctioned trail, then I'll delete it as I don't want to cause a problem in this way either.

    I can go talk to someone locally about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Question...
    So... My question is... Would it be out of place for me to cut/make a short bypass around those few sections? Nothing extravagant... Just an "intermediate" trail option.


    Would this be possible for me to do without upsetting anyone?

    Thanks for the feedback.
    Please...no. Unless you are IMBA certified or have 10+ years of trail-building experience. Please, no. I will personally take you out and we can session those sections together. Go over the rock, go around the rock, don't move the rock.
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    "I really don't see why getting off the bike to walk a section / feature/ obstacle that you can't ride is such a problem? Is it really so inconvenient?"

    It's not a problem or inconvenient... And I'll walk whenever necessary... In this case, I'd simply prefer to be able to ride right through, and there's the space to work that out.

    And it's not really a sanitizing... Just a bypass to cater to those of us who are not as able as others.

    Either it can be done, or it can't be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    "I really don't see why getting off the bike to walk a section / feature/ obstacle that you can't ride is such a problem? Is it really so inconvenient?"

    It's not a problem or inconvenient... And I'll walk whenever necessary... In this case, I'd simply prefer to be able to ride right through, and there's the space to work that out.

    And it's not really a sanitizing... Just a bypass to cater to those of us who are not as able as others.

    Either it can be done, or it can't be done.
    General rule is that if you didn't build it, you shouldn't modify it. Maintenance is OK (trimming face slappers, moving fallen trees).
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    "Go over the rock, go around the rock, don't move the rock."

    If I wanted to move the rock I would have done it already. I didn't, because I have no desire to change something others have done. But I'm all for going around the rock... Which is what I'm asking about. How that's accomplished I mean. And no, I'm not IMBA certified... But I know a some things about building trails, and am absolutely onboard with going out there with folks who are more qualified than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    "Go over the rock, go around the rock, don't move the rock."

    If I wanted to move the rock I would have done it already. I didn't, because I have no desire to change something others have done. But I'm all for going around the rock... Which is what I'm asking about. How that's accomplished I mean. And no, I'm not IMBA certified... But I know a some things about building trails, and am absolutely onboard with going out there with folks who are more qualified than me.
    I understood what you meant. Now man up.
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