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    I hate the bells, but I have a bluetooth speaker that goes in the bottle cage and I crank up Black Sabbath and make everyone listen to my music as a form of warning that I am barreling around a corner

    No one fucks with the guy jammin sabbath on the trails, they know he's all hyped up on Satan and bat blood.
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    It's time for lights for the Crank and Dranks.
    Great weather, great trail conditions. Certainly don't want to have your ride limited by that silly Sun going down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tip View Post
    It's time for lights for the Crank and Dranks.
    Great weather, great trail conditions. Certainly don't want to have your ride limited by that silly Sun going down.
    Last Tuesday, sunset was 7:48, this week 7:39 - a 9 minute difference. Following the D=Speed x Time formula, I calculate we merely need to travel 55.3 mph faster than last week to finish without the need for lights. Of course, my math could be off. It's an estimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cramsay3 View Post
    Last Tuesday, sunset was 7:48, this week 7:39 - a 9 minute difference. Following the D=Speed x Time formula, I calculate we merely need to travel 55.3 mph faster than last week to finish without the need for lights. Of course, my math could be off. It's an estimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyal View Post
    Please show your work.
    Trivial and left to the reader as an exercise. Cycling exercise, that is. Double entendre up in here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cramsay3 View Post
    Trivial and left to the reader as an exercise. Cycling exercise, that is. Double entendre up in here!
    I'm at least going to need your D variable. My guess is that (for the sake of easier math) your typical average pace is around 10mph. 55.3mph faster is 65.3mph. By my calculations, if you need to 55.3mph faster to cover the same distance in 9 minutes shorter time, last week's ride only lasted 10.6 minutes. This week's will be a short 1.6 minute ride at a brisk car on a highway pace.

    If D is constant, then in order to find Time (t):

    10mph x t = 65.3mph x (t - 9min)

    1. Expand
    10t=65.3t-587.7


    2 Subtract 65.3t from both sides
    10t-65.3t=-587.7

    3 Simplify 10t-65.3t to -55.3t
    -55.3x=-587.7

    4 Divide both sides by -55.3
    x=-587.7/-55.3

    ​t = 10.6 mins

    I'm now exhausted from all that exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notyal View Post
    I'm at least going to need your D variable. My guess is that (for the sake of easier math) your typical average pace is around 10mph. 55.3mph faster is 65.3mph. By my calculations, if you need to 55.3mph faster to cover the same distance in 9 minutes shorter time, last week's ride only lasted 10.6 minutes. This week's will be a short 1.6 minute ride at a brisk car on a highway pace.

    If D is constant, then in order to find Time (t):

    10mph x t = 65.3mph x (t - 9min)

    1. Expand
    10t=65.3t-587.7


    2 Subtract 65.3t from both sides
    10t-65.3t=-587.7

    3 Simplify 10t-65.3t to -55.3t
    -55.3x=-587.7

    4 Divide both sides by -55.3
    x=-587.7/-55.3

    ​t = 10.6 mins

    I'm now exhausted from all that exercise.
    So I don't need to bring my lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by froman View Post
    I hate the bells, but I have a bluetooth speaker that goes in the bottle cage and I crank up Black Sabbath and make everyone listen to my music as a form of warning that I am barreling around a corner

    No one fucks with the guy jammin sabbath on the trails, they know he's all hyped up on Satan and bat blood.
    I like that!

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    Not scary.


    In other news, what digbat put a b-line in Bowie Stonewall? I ended up ising it so I could re-try that tricky section, but let's not sissify the most challenging stuff out there too much.
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    BTW, if anyone runs into a really pissed off 3' rattler in CC metro (near Zippy's South) trails, I apologize. He was in the trail as I came around a bend and all I could do was ride over him once I realized I couldn't stop in time. I stopped about 10' down the trail after running him over to warn my buddies behind me and he was seriously rattling away for a few seconds before slithering off into the high grass somewhere. Either he'll be much more cautious about hanging out near a trail or he'll be on the hunt for revenge after getting rolled over

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    Very scary:




    Less scary:



    Not scary at all no matter what band is playing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post

    In other news, what digbat put a b-line in Bowie Stonewall? I ended up ising it so I could re-try that tricky section, but let's not sissify the most challenging stuff out there too much.
    I saw that. I tried to move a tree over one side to hide it some.

    Were you traveling northbound or southbound? I am curious if northbound is possible for anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    Not scary.


    In other news, what digbat put a b-line in Bowie Stonewall? I ended up ising it so I could re-try that tricky section, but let's not sissify the most challenging stuff out there too much.
    Boo! And in our group last night, someone was discussing potentially removing that tree that you've got to crank over in the park. Their argument was that it could potentially mess up their crank. What? I spoke to the merits of rising to the challenge and how wonderful it will feel once they can clear it. Fortunately, I was able to punctuate my argument by clearing it with them watching me (which puts me at 50/50.) Sup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tip View Post
    Were you traveling northbound or southbound? I am curious if northbound is possible for anyone.
    Northbound. That direction is harder for me, but I don't think I have cleaned that whole section either way without dabbing yet.

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    Where exactly is Bowie Stonewall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingAgain View Post
    Where exactly is Bowie Stonewall?
    Just south of the sidewalk that traverses Slaughter Creek, connecting the Veloway to the back of Bowie High. There is a very easy trail that loops around and back to the creek, and a more difficult path that is closer to the creek, which is Stonewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cramsay3 View Post
    Boo! And in our group last night, someone was discussing potentially removing that tree that you've got to crank over in the park. Their argument was that it could potentially mess up their crank. What? I spoke to the merits of rising to the challenge and how wonderful it will feel once they can clear it. Fortunately, I was able to punctuate my argument by clearing it with them watching me (which puts me at 50/50.) Sup?
    I'm guessing you are talking about that unusual Indian marker tree.
    Indian Marker Trees - Part 1 - Texas Historic Tree Coalition

    I would think that it would be criminal to cut that tree. We must all work to educate the community to NOT mess with things out there. Especially cool, probably historic, things.
    And you're 50/50 on it? Now you're just braggin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tip View Post
    I would think that it would be criminal to cut that tree. We must all work to educate the community to NOT mess with things out there. Especially cool, probably historic, things.
    And you're 50/50 on it? Now you're just braggin'!
    I just don't get this attitude to immediately dumb down features that you can't clear right away. Maybe it was the crowd I rode with when I started or just a general attitude back then, but if we couldn't clear something our first thought was "Well, I've got some more work to do..." NOT "lemme change that so that I can ride it now". Unfortunately I think it speaks about our society as a whole now where everything has to be faster, easier, and cheaper to be good. I'll push the soapbox back under the table now.
    You're right, we do need to educate the community.
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    I am tempted to laminate notes to post at trail features that says something like "do NOT modify this trail. Keep it natural and challenging."

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    What if you're just not interested in riding certain types of features and there's enough space to build an alternate route... Would that be considered dumbing down a trail system?

    I think I know where that Stonewall trail mack_turtle described is. If it's the section that I walked it with my wife maybe a month or so ago it's a tough section to clear right through. And dangerous. When I walked it the trail looked like it was fairly new. I told mack_turtle it woud be a great place to do some photography. But I have no interest in riding it now, and I'm glad there is an alternate route.

    As for posted notes saying "Do not modify. Keep natural and challenging." . . . Any mtb trail cut through natural environment is not natural. And "challenging" is subjective. There are riders I've seen that would ride through that section without blinking. And what they call challenging would make some folks shit their spandex.

    People all have the same access rights to public land, and we should all keep this in mind. In many cases, building an alternate route around a more "challenging" section may just keep that section safe from interferring riders.
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