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    King overhaul advice

    I just bought a used set of king wheels. I want to talk them in and get them serviced but i donít really know what that means. Both shops had 2 levels and one although it had 2 could only do one because it doesnít have the right tools for the higher-level service.
    So my questions are:
    What do i actually want?
    What could i typically expect to pay?
    What should I ask for?
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    Take them to the shop that has the King toolset to get the full-bones service done, at least this once, to ensure that the ringdrive and so forth is in good shape and properly lubricated.

    I can't give you a quote on the pricing as the last time ( actually the first time ) I had my hubs serviced to that level was part of a whole-bike service last Dec after riding the 24 hours @ Rocky Hill ( the hubs had NOTHING other than used grease in them, by the way ).

    You actually can probably do the lower service yourself, given a couple allen wrenches ( two 5mm to open the front hub, a teeny other size I can't recall to get the lockring of the rear axle ). The lower service basically is a clean & lube of the bearings.

    I'm up here in A-town but I originally got my hubs from Bike World down in SA and they did not only a great job building the wheels for me but a proper job upgrading the rear hub internals ( I had bought the heavy-duty stainless-steel upgrade ) so I know they have everything necessary for proper work.

    You may also holler at Carlos, seems like he may have those tools himself just because ...

    This is, as always, my own 2c, YMMV, no warranty expressed or implied ...

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    thanks these are a bike world build btw.
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    congrats on the wheels.

    how old are the hubs?

    pay wise.....we charged the same for service on Kings as we did with a Shimano hub. about $15 to $25. although, they might find a reason to charge more.

    depending on how old they are, will determine what service they need. also, ask to see the tool. some shops will say they have the tool and mean this:


    but for complete service they need this:



    and while it's possible to do the simpler level of service, since you can't be sure how well the hub was taken care of, it's best to be thorough.

    check out the tech page at King's site for a view of what's involved.

    and lastly....two of the most important tips.....

    Do Not Use Thread Locking Compounds on the Axle/Adjusting Cone Threads

    A Note on Lubricants and Build Level Versions:
    Rear hub versions 310 though 313 were originally designed to run on 20w non detergent or, preferably, 20w synthetic oil. This lubrication method works well, however, starting at version 314, we improved the system by converting it to run on a special grease. The special grease improved the cold weather performance, back pedal drag while freewheeling, and coasting speed. Sound deadening has benefited also. Do not attempt to run versions earlier than 314 on grease. This could cause sluggish movement of the drive ring leading to engagement problems. These earlier hubs may be upgraded at no cost to run on our special grease. This upgrade includes our new stainless steel needle bearing as well.

    The Hub Upgrade Program:
    Due to experience gained from riders and racers in the field our hubs have undergone several minor revisions that have continued to improve their performance. Each notable improvement is referred to as a new build level. The build level, or version, is designated by the first three numbers of the serial number (e.g., a hub shell with a serial number 310XXXXX is considered a version 310 hub.) Technical improvements added to each new build level are made available to all Chris King customers where ever possible.



    i've got the King tool and could serivce your hubs OR show you how, at the next race. i'm not sure about Bar H though.....i'm sure it'll be bitter cold.
    Last edited by carlos; 02-26-2003 at 11:25 AM.

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    i'm going to be at comfort not barh. HUmmmmmmmmm.
    the hubs are a year and a half old and raced bunches.
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    got it.

    then a complete cleaning, with the tool, is in order.

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    Can I get in on this action if I make it down to Comfort? Um, just watching since I don't have King hubs.

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    Originally posted by toonces
    .. just watching .. [/B]
    Perv.

    Peeping Tomcat.

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    toonces...like to watch?

    sure.

    Bear...hehehhe

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    yo C the front has this number 21813012 and the rear has this number 31904324.
    what's that mean?
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    that means you've got the newer current internals versions so no real need to send them back.

    nice!

    anyway, after the cleaning they'll be good for a long while.

    you may also want to download a manual just for you to have on hand. maybe get a nice folder. with some Transformers on it. or maybe a fast car.

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    Originally posted by carlos
    that means you've got the newer current internals versions so no real need to send them back.

    nice!

    anyway, after the cleaning they'll be good for a long while.

    you may also want to download a manual just for you to have on hand. maybe get a nice folder. with some Transformers on it. or maybe a fast car.
    sweet!!!! for the folder i was thinking a pickle driving a Gt40. ummmmm pickles.
    Hey the retards around here either dont have the tool or are going to make me wait for EVER to get them back, seriously like a week and a half, so if you are sure you can do it at comfort i'll take you up on that. pm me with your wage requirements.
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