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    trials, urban, urban trials

    When I get my trials bike built back up I want to go ride and learn stuff. Looking for trials riders in Austin other than the three guys that will post a reply to this.

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    PM trialsmaster from RM. He lives somewhere around Austin. And hes very good.

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    who were the 3 guys?

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    You, Toonces and Crash_Tested. Cause I already ride wif you guys.

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    Bliss, bliss and heaven... it was gorgeousness and gorgeosity made flesh...Oh, it was wonder of wonders... And then, a bird of like rarest spun heavenmetal, or like silvery wine flowing in a spaceship, gravity all nonsense now...


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    Damn, yo uhad to post to prove him right.






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    Leaving house in 20 (11:40) for some trials, urban, urban trials. Leaving Hyde Park hitting the land scaping "jumps" on the edge of the golf coarse on Red River then to Waller Creek Park, Downtown, Bank, a little campus an other fun things (Bank Stop not included here). Call if you want to join.

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    Replying.

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    hye CT, i saw you at 9th...Mandi and i were going up to ACC. was gonna honk, but thought that might be a little weird...

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    Ok, other fun things included mocha frap (ahhhhh cold) and Ninth Street jumps. A couple of kids were showing me the easy lines. First time I actually rode out there.
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    should of honked. Stopped by Trend too. One of the kids got a nail in his tire out there. The nails are everywhere
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    damn...that sucks. we drove by when you were talking to some kids, i think.

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    oh, about the nails...i wonder if they were the ones used to build up the quarter and wall ride (they were taken down 'cause nails were used and hammered into trees...against City rules)

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    I didn't get to see it but he said it was like 1/2" to 3/4" long and very sharp. Nothing I would imagine someone using to hold up a wall ride though.
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    Trackstand - [ Back to Overview ]
    Encouragement
    The very first thing to learn is the trackstand. This is where you balance on your bike, trying to move your wheels as little as possible. This is the hardest thing for most people to learn (at least for me it was), so don't get frustrated at yourself when you suck at it. It took me about 2 months, I think, before I could do it decently well. The most important thing is PRACTICE, the more you try to trackstand, the better you're going to get at it. You'll see, I promise...

    Instruction
    Find a slight uphill on concrete.

    Figure out which foot is your "good" or "forward" or "chocolate" foot, the foot you are most comfortable having in front

    Get on your bike and roll forward, put your good foot forward

    Roll to a stop (don't use your brakes at all in this excerise)

    Keep your pedals level with level ground (this goes for pretty much all the time in trials)

    (so if you're on a hill, don't keep your pedals level with the hill, keep them level with imaginary level ground)

    Turn your wheel opposite of your good foot about 45 degrees (left foot forward, turn right...)

    (this isn't absolute, I'm left foot forward and I turn left...)

    Try to maintain your position on the hill by pushing lightly on your front pedal

    A rocking motion will probably help... Push on the pedal enough to go forward, then let off and roll back a bit. Rinse and repeat. Er, I mean repeat.

    Keep your head way forward, almost over your front axle

    Keep your arms close to locked straight

    Keep your front leg pretty straight

    Keep your back leg bent a little, and use it for balance along with turning your wheel and shifting whatever body mass you can around over the bike (sounds hard because it is, it will get natural after a lot of practice, only now after over a year of riding am I VERY comfortable with balancing on most anything)

    Look about 6 feet forward, it's easier than looking straight down

    And most important: RELAX! Don't be all tensed up, it's only going to make you really sore.




    Rear Wheel Pivot
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    This is where you hop your front wheel either to your left or right, keeping your rear brake locked.

    To pop your front wheel up:
    Keep your rear brake locked

    Squish your body and arms over the front of your bike

    Then push up and lean back a little

    Borrowing from Ot Pi School: Make your body like a suspension... like a pogo stick...

    After you get the popping your front wheel up thing down, try leaning to one side when you squish down (so if you didn't bounce up, you would fall off your bike to that side). Then when you pull up, you'll automatically pivot that way.

    Another thing to remember is that if you land with your weight directly over the bike and with the bike straight up, you'll lose your balance in that same direction. So land with your weight away from the bike, and maybe with the bike angled a little bit, so when you land and soak up the impact sideways like that, you'll be perfectly trackstanding again.

    Try going around in a complete circle with little pivots (it'll probably take you like 20 or more little pivots to get all the way around). You won't be able to make it all the way without practice, so do it until it makes sense

    Once you've got that down, try to get further in your pivots (this is much more advanced, you should probably skip it and come back to it later...):
    You still want to lean in the way you want to go, but you'll want to do a kind of preload FIRST.

    A preload is where you lean the BIKE the opposite way of the way you want to go (it's weird, I know, but you'll thank me later on)

    So to do it, lean your bike the opposite of the way you want to go, and turn you handlebars opposite, too (if you can, straight is ok). Also twist your hips the opposite way. This is all something you do at once, for a very brief moment, then you explode into your turn, twisting your hips, pulling the handlebars in the direction you want to go. You can get up to 180 degrees with this method, and if you toss in leaning way back and keeping the handlebars real close, you should be able to make 360 degrees (although the point of this completely escapes me...)



    Pop Front Wheel Up Without Brake - [ Back to Overview ]
    This is handy for getting up curbs, and starting to learn how to bunnyhop.

    Pretty much you want to do the same thing as the rear wheel pivot... squish your arms, then push and pop your butt back and down, and voila, the front wheel will come up.

    When you get good, you should be able to pop it up so high that you fall off the back of the bike (another good reason NOT to be using clipless pedals).

    Try going up a curb. Don't worry, if you hit it at 5 mph, it isn't really going to hurt you or your bike.

    Right before you reach the curb, pop up the front.

    Here's where we separate the roadies from the mountain bikers or trials riders...

    As your rear wheel approaches, put your head over your front axle and sort of jump up a little bit (called unweighting the rear), so when your wheel hits, it bounces up and over the curb. Not the best way of getting up a curb, but it works for now, until you can pop your rear wheel up.


    Front Wheel Pivot
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    This is where you hop your rear wheel either to your left or right, keeping your front brake locked.

    To do this, you want to turn your handlebars away from you so when you land, your handlebars are straight in front of you (so, opposite of the way your rear wheel is going). Instead of the suspension being your arms, it's now more your legs. With your front brake locked, you must squish down a bit, pop forward and to one side, and move the bike with your hips (push it out toward your landing spot). I think the hips thing is key to getting any amount of distance. A lot of trials is about throwing your BODY MASS a certain direction, and then letting the bike follow or pulling it with you. This is especially true with the sidehop. You won't have to think about that for a while, though... ;-p


    Pop Rear Wheel Up Without Brake - [ Back to Overview ]
    This move is, as far as I'm concerned, the foundation of the bunnyhop, and will just plain make lots of moves you want to learn easier and make more sense. Your weight back while just rolling along slowly, jump and throw your weight way forward and push down and forward on the handlebars. You "unweight" the pedals... You'll learn it. You just have to get a feeling for how little weight you can put on the pedals without your feet flying off. When you're doing this move well, you can get your rear wheel surprisingly high, in which case you can probably do 180s on the front wheel now, so try it by rolling along and mixing together the front wheel pivot and this move.


    Up Stairs Pivoting - [ Back to Overview ]
    So, you think you're pretty good now, huh? You're all rear wheel and front wheel pivoting... Great! Now get accurate. I'd recommend going up stairs first, just because if you lose your balance going DOWN stairs, you might hurt yourself. Which reminds me, just stick to the first 2 or 3 stairs in a staircase. Pivot your front wheel on the first stair, then pivot your rear up and on the first stair... This is hard, so practice it. Come back down, too, rear tire first, then front. When you get good at this, go rear wheel up first, then front. Then front wheel down first, then rear wheel.


    Hopping In Place - [ Back to Overview ]
    Hopping in place is handy for keeping your balance on off-camber things like rocks. You try to maintain your balance, but when you start to lose it, you hop to correct your balance. Both brakes locked, squish down and push on the pedals and pull up, then absorb the landing with your whole body. If you've learned to bring up the rear wheel without brakes, you should be able to do this. Once you've got hopping in place down, try hopping up stairs. Put your front wheel one or two stairs up, and lean your body the direction you want to go, and hop. Hopefully you'll get your rear tire up one stair, and your front tire will go up one more stair, too... Trying going down the same way. Stairs are awesome for doing weird stuff like this, and they're very safe compared to rocks. Another way of keeping your balance when trackstanding isn't an option is pivoting. Keeping both brakes locked you make little pivots on either your front or rear wheel (you've gotta figure out which in what circumstances yourself) when you lose your balance. I generally try to pivot on my rear as much as possible, since it requires less energy than moving the rear around. This is also handy for inching your way over to the edge of something to drop off, or orienting yourself right to do a big move like a sidehop, or getting your aim right and your balance set before you do a pedal-up or whatever.


    Getting Up Stuff - [ Back to Overview ]
    Now that you can go up and down stairs, you can go for bigger things, too, just as long as you can get your front tire on it (well, it's difficult to get on really high things this way, but this'll work up to around 14" objects...). Pivot your front wheel onto it, then work your way around so you are facing the object with your front wheel on it. Roll forward and put your good pedal down on the object (if your bashring hits, go back and do a little hop (like lifting your rear wheel) while rolling forward to get it on top). Now this is the fun part, getting up. You need to have your weight directly over the the bottom bracket, then shift all your weight forward onto the front pedal (like you're trying to pedal into the object) and pull the bike up and forward. The bike should roll up under you. Your first time, you probably will only get a little bit of your wheel up, and then roll back, but keep going at it and thinking about it, and you'll get it soon enough.
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    i can do a trackstand...that's about it.

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    the envelope please


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    Cool cat, Jay. So, you got the Monty?

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    Yes, they sent me a new frame. Construction will begin immediately following my return from British Columbia. I've got enough to get it together, but need a few bits like a trials specific handlebar and a road cassette.

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