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    new Manitou site......

    www.answerproducts.com

    check out the Sherman Breakout. 112 - 152mm travel = ~4" to 6" of travel. i wonder how well that SPV works. that appears to be a badass fork.

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    its on my wish list. I was thinking about the flick in a 1.5 but 3" might be a little scary on the evil
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    sure....it's great if you want a tank for a fork....same as the Dirt Jumper I that I have pretty much...


    anyway....I dig the magnifier on their site....where you run the little square over the fork...and it magnifies the area within the little square...

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    what is the weight on the DJ? i think the Z1 is something like 6.1lbs.

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    5.8 lbs

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    the break out is almost 1 lb lighter than the DJ1 and is capable of 6" or 4" but you may have to reclock it from time to time to get the travel adjustment to work if you ride it in 4" mode alot.
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    a 3 inch fork would be fine.

    stiff and almost non existent travel is good for the street, djumpin, etc we're all doin... yall saw aaron chase and the boys bikes right? modified custom 3 inch etc forks... word

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    the evil would have a really steep angle at 3". It is designed for a 4 to 6" fork.
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    IMHO: if you like spending lots of time/money repairing your fork get a manitou. if you don't plan on riding much, get a manitou. if you think suspension forks should contain motor oil, get a manitou. there are lots of reasons to get manitou suspension, but i've never heard any good ones. fox and marzocchi are the only ways to go. ask any shop mechanic in town.

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    oh yeah, Fox Forx Vanilla RLC125 = 4.25lbs of pure love.

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    Originally posted by Crash_Tested
    the evil would have a really steep angle at 3". It is designed for a 4 to 6" fork.
    i hear ya...steep aint necessarily bad ya know... not sure...it would probably mess up the geometry if its designed for 4-6 but steep is fast

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    Greg...sometime I'd like to ride your evil so I can see how that fox feels...if you don't mind....

    I know I keep saying this...but I am getting more and more used to the weight of the DJ1....my wrist strength is coming back....so I'm able to huck the tank around a bit w/o feeling like I'm doing damage to it....

    -m a r k

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    72* with 3". 71* without sag.

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    ohh yeah...and Greg....can you tell me how the Vanilla RLC will feel compared to the Talas? Will the springs have a stiffer feel? compression dampening will have what effect again?

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    i need stiffer springs.

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    another thing: fox forx come with full spring kits, the medium is installed and you get a light & stiff in the box.

    fletch: yeah man, next time we all ride you can check it out. or just swing by the shop for a test ride.

    you would have to compare a Talas RLC to the Vanilla RLC. both are available in R, RL, & RLC packages. I say spend the extra dough for the RLC. the low speed compression damping is a very nice feature. i'm 190lbs and run the medium spring with my low speed damping turned up. has a better feel and more responsive than stiff springs with no damping. plus you have bump-threshold on the RLC. you can ride locked out and dial in where you want the fork to open.
    the talas will have progressive spring as most air forks do. coils are a linear spring. fox has done there best to make the talas have as close to a linear spring feel as possible. in other words, the more you compress an air spring, the harder the spring gets. coils are going to have the same spring rate all the way through the travel.
    http://www.foxracingshox.com/website...&Id=13&count=6

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    sorry. compression damping controls the rate at which the fork compresses. so you get a nice fluid compression instead of a fast jerky motion, (see manitou's site, haha) sadly, manitou uses plastic compression and rebound control rods. they snap too often. most are broken before you even get to ride it. Fox really likes the use of CNC'd aluminum (another major reason they're expensive)

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    the stiff springs that come with the Fox is too weak, in my opinion. even Josh opted for the yellow spring (or was it orange...can't remember)

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    mark...if you can get used to the weight of the dj, itd be nice and reliable for sure...

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    i'm still running the stock medium spring. no probs clearing any jumps and it doesn't seem to be slowing me down at all. ben is running a medium in his RL125 set for 80mm. I'm pretty sure he outjumps any of us. I've never understood why anyone would want your 'suspension' fork to be that stiff.

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