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    I must be the only one that doesn't mind working on recumbents...

    There aren't many recumbent owners who I'd like to be around for any length of time, but the bikes themselves never were too much of a problem.

    And since everyone is posting "wtf" pictures, I'll contribute.

    I don't remember the setting/background story, I just remember seeing this and thinking "how could someone do that?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    -dustin.....pick yo self up some nightrain and end the day right.....

    by the way...what did the total bill come to?

    hey....at least you didn't have to install a rack, kickstand, comp with cadence, lights blinkys and bento box......i had like 1000 of those right before the MF150.
    bill came to $251.55.

    Astrale 8s are so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os
    et al....forgot to post up this other gem.....

    i showed up on monday or thursday and foudn this waiting to be tossed out.....

    i've not seen something like this since it happened to me back in 99.....

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...MVC-001F-1.jpg

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...MVC-002F-1.jpg

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    fore...i'm gonna ship some recumbents to you.....you'll rake it in and i'll get to keep my sanity....


    i saw that photo and couldn't stop laughing......awesome!





    -dustin.....$250? Jebus!

    astrale 8.......i had to install one of those on a kids bike once......







    aLaN...really?



    anyone else?
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    young...i'm just using the shop one cause they use it for warranty photos instead of sending stuff through the mail.....

    so did you guys sell 'em a new crankset and pedals or did they cheap out and get some $20 cranks?
    they bought a new set of cranks. i got the feeling that the lady that picked up the bike wasn't the one that did the deed.

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    I had a great day at the shop yesterday. Not much in the way of repairs this week, however a fresh shipment of bikes just arrived. Lots of fun stuff from Mirraco - and new BMX racers from DK. Building a 5.5 Madone was icing on the cake. Love those test rides.

    Oh, and we also get our share of extreme-turds to work on.
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    so in the photo you posted above, that I've posted below... where would this spoke hole have been (in terms of angle of rotation) in order to fail in that manner after hitting a pothole?

    I'd guess that it would be somewhere around 3-4 o'clock (or 8-9 o'clock) since it was pulled out.


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    hey....at least you didn't have to install a rack, kickstand, comp with cadence, lights blinkys and bento box......i had like 1000 of those right before the MF150.
    Oops, sorry. I had BW do a lot of toy installation on my first. Hopefully I wasn't such a pain on my second.

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    dan...any exceptional turds?


    Anita Handle....no idea as i didn;t talk to the guy but i remember hearing the word pot hole a few times.........

    with a rim as old as this....it might as well been a manhole cover.....

    but IF this were a case of the rim's roof failing BECUASE of the impact with the pothole (cause it might not have been the pot hole at all...but all those hundreds of times the rim had been bumped there over the years and miles and miles of use...typically...a part oes fail cause you hit a rock or bump.....failure is typically cumulative.) i would have to guess that it really wouldn't have mattered at what postion the rim was it. the roof had probably already yeilded and would have failed later on...even without the pot hole.....

    maybe the the roof yeilded and the the rider never hit a pot hole but continued to ride the smoothest of roads (which aren't all that smooth in reality) for a few hundred more niles...thent eh case might have been he was literally just riding and the roof failed and the eyelet pulled through. in that case...he would have said...i didn't hit anything.

    of course...remember that it's cumulative so it all the impacts added together that cause parts to fail....not jumping off aloading dock...although...that DOES help things along......




    peety3....hehehe......that's not the complete list....

    in the past i've added so mant accessories that the bike gained...in some cases... about 4 to 10 pounds.
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    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    et al........guess what rolled back into the shop today.....one of the 5 security guard bikes that were worked on just about 4 days ago.....

    the bike had a locked up rear wheel...so it was half dragged to the service area.....on closer inspection......


    mangled derailleurs are not a big deal.......we see them often.....forced shifts, broken chains, bent hangers from laying the bike down for transport on the driveside.....nothing new.....

    this one though has some interesting stuff going on. ....

    this der was NEW just four days ago. check out the gash on the plastic where the housing seats.....clearly crashed or impacted.....

    notice the main bolt is facing down and the left.

    notice the broken hinge on the outer parallelogram linkage....

    notice that the other inner half of the cage is gone.

    notice that the frame is steel since there are no wide welds between the stays and dropouts....which means it can be bent back....





    from the other side....you can see whoever was riding must have felt the der get munch but decided to continue to pedal......the hub, spokes, and cassette all were ok......

    notice the grime already building up.....i bet these guys are securing a coal fired power plant....




    the bike was worked on and is back and being used to secure things.......

    and if you add the original repair bill for this bike from four days ago ($357)......plus todays total charge $214....you get $589.
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    holy shit. i bet a new one would've been cheaper. which bikes are these? Cannondales?
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    they need single speeds. or unicycles. or walking shoes.

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    sweet pictures and stories.

    I think I have only taken my bike in once or twice after something terrible hit. 99% of the time I take it to the shop for a tune up. I try to keep things adjusted on a regular basis, but nothing beats the feel of a bike that a professional actually tuned up.

    I have never figured out whether the guys love working on a bike like that or whether they think "what a bonehead, he could have done all this himself."
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    I don't want to know what the guys think. I've seen them huddle in the back room, giggling and such, so I'm a little afraid of what they're laughing at.

    I hope to learn more about basics of bike maintenance, but for now I'm just going to 'ride' the fact that I've dropped some serious coin at BW in the past six months and say 'you made some nice margins on me'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Bike View Post
    I have never figured out whether the guys love working on a bike like that or whether they think "what a bonehead, he could have done all this himself."
    i'm happy to do some minor tweak on a bike for $25. it's when they come in all 'home-(un)repaired' when i call em boneheads behind their backs.

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    -dustin.......yeah....new bikes would have been easier and we did mention it to them but they didn't "want to spend so much money".....

    they are smith and wesson brand bikes...one is a caloi and one other is a.....uh...i forgot......




    Austin Bike, peety3........i think the real issue mechanics have is when a rider crashes.....clearly at fault.....and then tries to say that it was not adjusted properly or that it's a warranty.

    now....there might be some cases where there was an adjustment issue from the start but i'm confident in the level of profesionalism from the other mechanics i work with that they don't just let things walk out the dorr if they aren't adjusted properly.

    now....if some rider comes in every week with a new broken part cause they ride hard or because...as in most cases...they were riding and not paying attention or outside their riding abilities....most mechanics....most GOOD mechanics aren't going to just roll the bike back and get to work on it...they'll first congratulate the owner on the damage and ask WHY and HOW the damage happened.

    most of the time they ask so they can get a feel as to what else needs to be checked.

    in most cases....i think most mechanics are surprised or just impressed with damage on bikes.....there are alot of ways to jank a derailleur but there are some really spectactular ways too...and those are always awesome to see.....

    i think if, i personally laughed.....it's usually thinking back to the times i've trashed a part in the same way.

    i don't think mechanics hate or dislike working on bikes that get trashed......

    in the case of the security guard bikes....the real issue is that they get fixed up and roll out tip tip after about a 4 dayssolid work on them to get them runing well. 4 days go by and the der is damaged as pictured above....now...MAYBE he decided to print after soem criminal BUT.....probably not as this security firm has had a long history of trashing bikes and bringing them to bike world.

    whie you COULD use the argument that "hey, stop whining, trashed bikes keep mechanics in businiess"....it's never worth it to spend even an hour on bikes that are so totally boned that it takes near a whole day to work on them.

    when the bike pictured above was brought in....the guy who brought them in said "the boss said you guys need to take care of us on this since we just paid about $100o to get them all tuned up and then this turns up.....it was not properly adjusted".....basically...he wanted us to fix this for free.

    the mechanic who worked on this bike has been a mechanic since he could drive ( i think the guy's in his 40s but maybe not). he'd also the service manager. i would not doubt that he put 100% of himself into these bikes. so i would guess it was not an adjustment issue.

    but i think any mechanic could look at that and see that this was not an issue of adjustment.




    peety3....i wouldn't hesitate to talk more to us when you drop off the bike.....

    although....in some cases...if we're laughing....it's probably not at the riders who drop stuff of.....we have MANY forms of entertainment back (one being the internet) so don't think it's you.....in most cases it's not.

    all of the mechanics who work there (blue shirts only) are pretty easy going and aren't going to make fun of someone one becaue they crashed a bike....that's kinda silly.

    i'd be the first to smile and say "man...what happened, this looks messed up....." personally....i WANT to know how things get wrecked.

    a bit of the inside track here.........and on the note of giggling.....

    recently i brought in some sour powers candy......it's a 6" long flat strip of watermelon flavored Fruit-Roll-Up type stuff covered in super sour white powder.....these thigns are soooooooo damn good.....

    anyway...the two other mechs there that day were trying them for the first time....one guy like them quite a bit and the other not so much......

    so i jokingly said.... "i dare you to snort the sour powder from the bottom of the bag".....he wanted some compensaton so i offered him $10. and it was just enough.....and...it was snorted.....and damn.....i wish i could have taken a photo of this dude's face cause he turned RED and started coughing like crazy.....and then he said he could feel lots of nasal fluid drain down the back of his throat.....oh damn it was hilarious!!!! he snorted about 4 grams worth.....crazy punk!

    anyway...i post on specific bikes and it's mostly just to give riders an insight to what might go on at a shop.....i know lots of the mojos who used to work at shops and some who would love to quit their current whipping post and go work at a shop and i figured this might be a nice treat for those who couldn't get some insider connection otherwise...........if i say i hate installing racks...don't take that as if it's directed at all those who use a rack......

    personally....if you want to learn about maintenance....feel free to ask any of use....me especially....two days ago some dude came in and was asking why his bar tape woud always come undone. i asked his the brand and his method to wrap....turns out he was over lapping too much and not pulling it tight enough.....AND he was using a brand i personally don't like....

    soooo....i asked if he had about 20 minutes....he said yes and i pulled a pack of the Deda tape and showed him what to do as i wrapped the left side....then i had him do the right while i guided him through it.....it actually took about 40 minutes but the guy walked away knowing a better way to wrap tape. while i'm NOT supposed to allow customers behind that rubber rope thing.....i did anyway cause....the guy was willing to take the time....and so long as they have the time and want to learn...i'm more than happy to show them......




    young......a guy came in yesterday and said he couldn't get his pedals off the cranks....he was not using a long pedal wrench....i forgot to ask....anyway....at some point he said he got pissed off and took a die grinder with a cutting wheel to the pedal and hacked off the pedal body......so this bike is sitting there with axle stubs still threaded to the arms and he says....

    cust: can you guys get these off....

    me: uh...yeah...did you cut these?

    cust: i was trying to get them off and got pissed and just them off.....just charge me whatever....

    luckily...where he cut was past the flats on the spindle so we were in good shape. but he did get to see us remove the arms...clamp them in the bench vice (with a rag so as not to scratch) and then see two mechanics try to break the axle stub free by jerking hard enough to shake one of the benches that's bolted to the wall......

    mech: man....no problem but next time....maybe jsut count to five....

    cust: naaa...i'm always fucking things up like that....

    that's sheer honesty. labor charge for 10 minutes with each arm, $5.
    Last edited by car!os; 12-02-2006 at 10:16 AM.
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    that fu@#er will do anything for ten bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    a bit of the inside track here.........and on the note of giggling.....

    recently i brought in some sour powers candy......it's a 6" long flat strip of watermelon flavored Fruit-Roll-Up type stuff covered in super sour white powder.....these thigns are soooooooo damn good.....

    anyway...the two other mechs there that day were trying them for the first time....one guy like them quite a bit and the other not so much......

    so i jokingly said.... "i dare you to snort the sour powder from the bottom of the bag".....he wanted some compensaton so i offered him $10. and it was just enough.....and...it was snorted.....and damn.....i wish i could have taken a photo of this dude's face cause he turned RED and started coughing like crazy.....and then he said he could feel lots of nasal fluid drain down the back of his throat.....oh damn it was hilarious!!!! he snorted about 4 grams worth.....crazy punk!
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    aLaN........fern AND brian.....fern did 1 gram but brian did 4.....it was awesome!

    brian needs to come to camp mojo.....he's the dude on the cruizer......
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Speaking of snorting....

    I was giving out some Clif products at a six o clock ride Thursday ride a while back and one of the guys decided to "drink" a packet of Clif Shot electrolyte replacement drink dry. He got the same reactions- everybody got a good lauf and he couf and sputered and was hacking the whole ride... And he did it for free!!!!
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