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    i really wanted to finish this today but......i'll continue later tonight......

    in the meantime.....curt goodrich bikes always look bad ass......maybe it's the font.....he recently started a team issue cross bike with a very unheard of (for him) use of a carbon fork......

    in most cases.....using a carbon fork on a bespoke steel frame is like pairing a suit jacket from saville row with a pair of slacks from sears......or pouring ketchup on an aged, grass feed, rib eye.....but in this case it makes sense......

    still nice though.....







    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Is it normal to weigh a bike without crank arms and pedals to claim its weight? Seems a little strange.
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    T__...ha!......take those sunglasses off when you're indoors dude.....

    look closer....no pedals is normal since it's hard to guess what pedals someone uses but that bike does have a crankset on it......
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    ANT was there and the styles of bikes you see here are the only styles he's now making. which allows him to do other colors than black.....







    Paul was there but since i've got more pics of the same from previous shows.....i only took two......







    so that was all of saturday........around 11 they opened the doors to the general public and a steam stream of people walked in....great for the builders.....most got mobbed pretty well.......







    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Any good bum stories? Don't see as many skinny girl jeans as I expected in these pixs.

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    it's at this point that i became more aware of the fact that i was very hungry.......again there were some suggestions for local place that were not ore than a few blocks away but i couldn't take the chance.....

    round two at morton's......after three top shelf margaritas (to remind me of a warmer climate) so it's a bit out of focus.....








    after lunch i walked the three blocks back to the hotel.....mother fucker...cold as ice!




    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    bogeyman...hipster infestation was pretty low-ish......

    as for bums....not many.....too cold out......


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    sunday was a short day 11-5 and i was in no hurry....a few last shots of some other stuff and spent the rest of the day just looking for stuff i'd missed.....not much......

    as for visitors....sunday was pretty slow.....less than half of the folks that showed up on saturday.....



    Dominguez was one builder who'd never been but was really excited by the whole show.....got a few orders too.....







    there's a housing stop in there....guess how it was done.....





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    then there was ellis......







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    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    SRAM now also owns Zipp...........hmmmm when has this sort if thing happened before?












    Campagnolo was there....cool.....brian, their tech was super cool and willing to answer any and all questions.......




    the ratchets used in these shifters are in the red shifters from that other company.....in fact, the first few where purchased direct from campagnolo.....





    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    and to close......
















    DT Swiss doesn't make the 240 hubset in polished silver......






    continuing to poke fun at racers with asshole attitudes........

    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    maybe it was the combination of the weather and the city but this nahbs was a totally 1 dimensional experience for me.......

    i really wanted to find something other than bikes to explore but maybe that reinforces the whole focus of what this really represents.......

    enough show.......how about some substance........and the substance was easy to weed out from the flash and bang........

    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    after lunch i walked the three blocks back to the hotel.....mother fucker...cold as ice!
    I was walking through the streets of NYC yesterday and the chilly wind was allowing my eyes to tear up. Then those tears froze to my face... little drops of ice.

    Chilly may not be a strong enough adjective to utilize in this description of the coldisity of the cold here.

    As always, I love the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    T__...ha!......take those sunglasses off when you're indoors dude.....

    look closer....no pedals is normal since it's hard to guess what pedals someone uses but that bike does have a crankset on it......
    That's funny. I looked at the bike three different times and saw no cranks. Today the cranks are on the bike. I've been duped.
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    Speedvagens are really, really doing it for me...oh man.



    That's one of the few Vanillas that I pretty well cannot dig at all. Reminds me too much of a European-made in Taiwan-carbon super bike given how the headtube and fork are painted. That's distracting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toobin' Tobin View Post
    I was walking through the streets of NYC yesterday and the chilly wind was allowing my eyes to tear up. Then those tears froze to my face... little drops of ice.

    Chilly may not be a strong enough adjective to utilize in this description of the coldisity of the cold here.

    As always, I love the pics.

    Try my home town...Buffalo....


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    Quote Originally Posted by -dustin View Post
    Speedvagens are really, really doing it for me...oh man.

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/...0100dfac_b.jpg

    That's one of the few Vanillas that I pretty well cannot dig at all. Reminds me too much of a European-made in Taiwan-carbon super bike given how the headtube and fork are painted. That's distracting.

    I agree. I love everything about that bike, except for the head-tube/fork junction. Just looks wrong for some reason.
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    Toobin' Tobin....yeah....if the shows moves to the east cost....maybe new york....i'm sure it'll be cold as dry ice out there.


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    -dustin.....he said it was for their graphic designer so he stepped outside of the production frames. it's hard for me not to dig it since it's different than all vanillas that have been done up to this point but still looks like a vanilla to me.....interesting mix......the back end paint is asymmetrical, the frame is lugged, TIGd, and filet brazed, and elements of a speedvagen....
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    awesome!

    thanks for sharing the photos C!, they are very exciting!

    Did you know if Paul made double Crankset for road? The suit-ed rings look bad-ass but seems like they are only for SS?
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    bru!sin....funny you should ask.......i was at the booth for a while talking to him and he got that question about 9 times in the 15 minutes i was there.......he was not too happy having to answer it all weekend.......he's not the sort of guy you'd expect.........

    he's sticking to single speed stuff only.

    the rings only accept an 1/8th" pitch chain....they're also heavy compared to most road cranksets.......

    on the bright side....there is a polished option.....
    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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    Quote Originally Posted by car!os View Post
    bru!sin....funny you should ask.......i was at the booth for a while talking to him and he got that question about 9 times in the 15 minutes i was there.......he was not too happy having to answer it all weekend.......he's not the sort of guy you'd expect.........

    he's sticking to single speed stuff only.

    the rings only accept an 1/8th" pitch chain....they're also heavy compared to most road cranksets.......

    on the bright side....there is a polished option.....


    yes, definitely a piece of attractive creative work...




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    bru!sin....reminds me of giger.......



    It’s impossible to rate welding/brazing quality by looking at a finished frame joint, even an unpainted one. Files, sandblasting, and a good paint job can take care of that. Such a joint will look stellar unpainted, but won’t last. Yet people all the time look at frames and say, “Nice welding/brazing…” The point isn’t to make you paranoid, just to stop saying things like, “That’s nice welding/brazing,” when you see a painted/unpainted frame. -- Grant Petersen

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