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[carlos]

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[Big T]

Waaaaaayyyyyy ttttoooooo much time on your hands Carlitos.

I might have to kick a certain new bike frame and fork at you to keep you busy Tuesday (?). Can you work me in if it gets here in time? I'll need a switchover. Raygun gets my frame and cables. Let me know the lowdown.

Hey Raygun, I have a collection of about 6 one hole tubes for you. Remind me to bring them if we schedule a ride any time soon. They are all in good shape.

Sure would like those fancified, city-slicker cables for my brakes. You know the ones that are way stronger than Ellie Mae on steroids. Can you get Mr. Dreyfuss to order me some?

What are they called and do you have a review lying somewhere around in your vast collection of memorized product reviews. You ever tried them or considered them? Why or why not. Is it a weight-weenie thang?

Which should I get if I can only afford one or two sets (29.95 each). Brake or shifter? Front or rear? Of course my gut feeling is that I want to start with my rear brake. I love that thing man. A good rear brake is the start of a good bike in my book.

Man, I'm glad I remembered to ask this as it has caused me many sleepless nights.

Er, sorry. I have more important things to do.

:rolleyes:

[carlos]

i'd be happy to help you and Raygun out and get you rolling again. i'm off tuesday but if you want to bring the frame (or frames, raygun's too) by Bike Show i can press in the headsets (if there will be a change) and the crown races on the forks. all the other tools for a complete bike build i have here at the house. turn around would be about a day, two at the most for both.

ok, we need to know a few things before a frame gets switched over.


terry:


SC/SL's seat post size is 27.2....what do you have now?

front der. clamp size is 31.8.....what do you have now? the size will be stamped on the inside or underside of the clamp.

68mm bb shell. what do you have now?

headset, got one? new one, or the one off the Eddie?

also the Psylo, got it? or, will it come with the frame?

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Raygun:

same thing, seatpost (i believe the Giants are 27.2), front der, headset (threaded or threadless), bb shell width all need to be figured out.

i think i remember seeing a set of canteliver brakes on your bike? correct? if so, you'll need new V-brakes as the Eddie does not have the hanger for cantis. there are ways to make the cantis fit but if you were planning on getting new brakes, now will be the time. also, V's are gonna me a must up front since Manitou has no kit to install canties on X-Verts.

also, if you're converting from threaded to threadless then you'll need a new stem and headset.
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Mr.Dreyfuss? huh? Or is it Drysdale?


anyway, if you mean sealed cable systems, you get the choice of either the Avid Flak Jackets or Gore Ride-Ons. I've used both and had better luck with the avids.

both are about the same except for the fact that the yellow sheath on the Gore system sits very close to the cable so there isn't much room for anything else. enter: dirt. if enough gets in there the brake and ders will feel sluggish.

flak jackets have no sheath. the cable is protected by and interlocking system of sleeves. the cable sits about 1.8 mm away from the housing and sleeves at any given point. more room for crud if it happens to get in there. my cable ran smooth through the last bit of much in october and december when i gave mother nature the bad finger and rode anyway. now it's 100 degrees outside and i'm getting my revenge. take THAT rain!

opps, got off the subject. also, both the Eddie and SL have top routed brake cables so you shouldn't have any problems with routing. on my frame, the cables are routed on the side of the top tube, the brake housings smooth path is tweaked a bit by the headtube (there are ways around this though) so length is critical. again, you shouldn't have any problems on either.

as far as which to do first...... logically, one could make a valid argument for either brake or der. so i'll leave that up to you.

as to whether or not they are a good idea....i'd have to say yes. dust is more of a problem for unsealed systems in the summer and it can leave cables feeling tight, dry, and grindy. a little lube helps now and then but eventually it ends up a mixture of dust and lube. in the muddy months the advantage of a sealed set is obvious. a sealed system also tends to feel smoother longer. that's a genrealization 'cause it all depends on how you like your brakes set up, lots of lever travel, little to none, high cable tension or low.........

oh and weight-wise, the sealed systems are about 50g heavier compared to unsealed. also, they come packaged in pairs. two ders and two brakes. no mix and match.

anway, let me know.

[chief]

would you hide something up your ass?

[Big T]

I'll take the Flakking Brake Cables. I'll hold off on the deraily thingies for now.

As usual, great advice, current and timely.

I will get you the specs you requested tomorrow. I know the seatpost is a 27.2. But not fully sure on others.

Drysdale, you're right oh great one. Is there no end to your vast knowledge. PMBR and Beverly Hillbillies, what a well rounded individual you is. My remembrance of the Bev Hillbillies is limited, in part due to the lovely Ellie Mae...Hmmm! She was the main character wasn't she? I thought she was an acting dynamo. Always left us wanting more.

[Big T]

Psylo come with frame. Frame and fork come soon, real soon. The anodization process takes longer than painting, so it is taking just a little bit longer. But those lazer etched Santa Cruz graphics are going to look sooo sweet.

I forgot to mention this, but Raygun will probably want to hold off on building his steed until he accumulates the needed parts. I am going to talk to him about selling him my Cane Creek headset for a good deal. That way he won't have to pay full price and it can stay on the bike its already on.

:D

[carlos]

Originally posted by Big T
She was the man character wasn't she? I thought she was an acting dynamo. Always left us wanting more.

Ellie Mae was a Man?!?!?!

good idea on the headset bit.



chief, like, maybe, a watch?