MFking Manitou Magnum R's

[Big T]

I wrote this e-mail to Manitou today:


I was riding a Manitou Magnum R and the mfing thing exploded in my face. I happened to be riding with one of the best mechanics in San Antonio (Carlos) who put it back together and gave it his blessing. The mfing thing exploded again and once again before I called it quits and walked 5 miles out of the trails
(a little puffery Carlos). Thanks for such a dependable product and thanks for the projectiles that barely missed my eyes each time the spring shot out. Thanks for my swollen jaw and mouth. Thanks for shaking my confidence in fork technology.

I am taking the fork back to Ride Away Bicycles in San Antonio on Huebner St. today. I will not accept the same fork and I will not accept sub par crap after today. Please work with me to improve my situation because I am definitely in physical and emotional distress but would rather work this out in an amicable manner.

I understand equipment cannot be guaranteed 100% of the time, but this is the most vicious feeling I have ever felt and never expected this from your product. Or any of the to fork manufacturers. It has shaken my confidence and I want some form of restitution for this mishap. Please advise me of what can be done to get me a better fork that won't explode in my face.






All Mojos, careful with your forks. I have never heard of this and it has me freaked out. I can't ride now without wondering if a projectile will launch at my head. Damn coporate creeps and inferior technology. After all, its not their F$$$##ING heads on the line. Assholes.

Hope none of you experience what I experienced today thanks to Manitou's wonderful products. If you have the same fork, Carlos recommends putting some sort of aluminum screw caps on the top instead of that cheap ass plastic shit!!!!

[Rene]

Dude, that totally sucks! We had a good ride today. Strieber showed us many hidden singletrack that weve never ridden before. There's plenty times to do this again after you get that fork fixed.

[carlos]

terry, that did suck.

it's happened a few times to folks who i know who ride the older Judys but never often enough to think twice about it. let us know what comes of the letter.

many shops have or can order the aluminum top caps to replace the plasitc ones.

the ride was excellent. especially the technical stuff.

[Bad Attitude=Michael]

Damn Big T, that really sucks. What did Ride Away say? When are you getting a new fork? When are you able to ride again?

Man, we went on some pretty hairy downhills today. Those friggin' climbs were killer too. I'll give you a call later on today.

[Cornell]

Hey Terry! How you like your Manitous??;)

Shit!!:eek:

[Big T]

Got pictures of the damage. Hard to eat and headaches all day.

The first projectile was the worst and that hit my jaw squarely and deflected into my inner lip (I guess they were flapping in the wind). The inside of one side of my mouth is a big purple/black bruise. My chin feels like shit.

I can't believe our equipment is capable of such extreme damage. Two inches and an eye would have easily been gone.

Forks should not be able to be opened from the top. The top should be reinforced and all externals should be removable from the bottom of the fork.

One good thing came out of this: I definitely do not have a glass jaw. That damn Manitou took its best shot and I was still up.

[Big T]

Hey Cornell, Post your phone number so we can hook up for a ride. Mine is 834-8059.

[carlos]

englunds had this same problem. its an aftermarket air cart. that replaces the springs in most forks. if ya thought the plastic cap to the jaw was a bummer, can you imagine a platic cap and metal valve with 170 lbs. of air behind it. yikes!

[Bad Attitude=Michael]

That hit would've knocked out the common mortal. U DA MAN BABY!

[dan]

Originally posted by Cornell
Hey Terry! How you like your Manitous??;)



Real sorry to hear about your fork attacking you. With all the ways to get banged up on MTBs, who'd of thought a fork could scatter like that. I've never heard such a thing even through all the years of dirt bike riding. The craziest thing I ever saw was a guy on a big bore Husqvarna at a moto x race who went over a jump and lost his fork lowers and front wheel in mid-air. Needless to say, he had an incredibly rough endo landing.

Hey, Cornell, what's brewing these days???

[aLaN]

Originally posted by dan
Hey, Cornell, what's brewing these days???


Yea???? Hmmmm???

[Big T]

Ruben at Ride Away Bicycles has really been super helpful on this matter and about as professional as you would want for someone in my shoes. He met resistance at Manitou from a stupid biotch that told him I was trying to scam a new fork.

Manitou should mount my old fork on a bike and make that bitch ride it until the spring pops up into her face. I bet her stupid ass story would change the first time she got hit.

Anyways, Ruben gave me the back-line number and I ended up talking to two super-cool dudes who probably can imagine my pain better than Sally Servicelady could.

The new X-Vert (I had a lowly Magnum R) will be arriving this week and if any Dr. bills are incurred, they will cover them.

It appears I was only testing the Magnum R until Manitou discovered me and thought it best to bestow such a good (ha) rider for his efforts. Now I will have one of their best products, hope it holds up.

Check this out for cool: Ruben over at Ride Away was already looking into Rock Shox and Marzocchi replacements that would be better quality than what I had. I know he also has to cover himself, but there was not one bit of negativity in his voice or actions. That's something to respect. I will always appreciate that and thank God that I bought this at an LBA that takes an interest in its customers. Sure I pay more at the LBA, but the service and satisfaction I get is immeasurable.

[dan]

Like they say - no pain, no gain! just think what kind of fork (or fork company) you could have gotten for a lost eye/cracked skull.
:eek: Good luck with the perVert. er, xxxVert, I mean X Vert.

[carlos]

now that's some sweet action! not to mention Something with such a smooooooooth stroke.

lets see, 4 inches of travel, Coil and MCU spring, 1-piece Magnesium lowers, AND External preload, rebound, and compression damping!

[Rene]

You got a damn good deal after all of this, Terry. Cant wait to see the new fork.:)

[Big T]

Good deal except now I have to live with this weird fear of projectiles when Mountain Biking. There is a psychological scarring that goes far beyond anything Manitou can do for me. Sure the X-Vert is a great upgrade, but there was much pain and definitely psychological distress.

Can't wait to try the new fork, but I hope they schwag me a little better than that.

Wish me luck. Manitou may be our first real big sponsor for the Comfort race next year.

[chief]

anyone heard anything from that new fork - BLACK? it looks kick ass!

[Rene]

Also Rock Shox came out with a new one, its called "Duke". Very pretty and shineeee!!:rolleyes:

[Rene]

Sure the X-Vert is a great upgrade, but there was much pain and definitely psychological distress. It called PTSD. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The only cure is checking into the state hospital and take medications that make you drool and see things that arent there.:eek:

[Big T]

Frank, I'd like to check into a room please. Good meds preferred.

[carlos]

2002 SIDs are being set up wit carbon crowns and steerers! they haven't mentioned if it will be a pro team only or if will be available through a retailer.

[chief]

Originally posted by Big T
Frank, I'd like to check into a room please. Good meds preferred.

come over to the hospital i work at! we'll take care of you! hehehehe

[dan]

Originally posted by aLaN





MMMMMMMmmmmmm Marazocchi!

Isn't that some kind of Italian legume? Maybe that's why they made a Bomber :rolleyes:

[Cornell]

Hey, Cornell, what's brewing these days???

Nuthin' brewin', Dan, my man. Nothing like standing over a boiling pot and open flame in 90 degree weather for 2 hours--no thanks! Plus, I need a second fridge to stash my fermentation in--I keep telling the wife what a dog our current fridge is so she'll drop some cash on a new one, but she ain't going for it.

Anyway, hope to start a special *MOJO* batch in the fall for the next big Mojo bash.

Hasta! :D

[Cornell]

Originally posted by Big T
Hey Cornell, Post your phone number so we can hook up for a ride. Mine is 834-8059.

658-5974. You still interested in doing Cibolo Creek sometime in the evening? It's dry as a bone and in pretty good shape. It's worthless for about 2-3 weeks after a rain. I gotta hook up with you guys sometime at Mainland--never been.

Can I still wear my Manitou socks when I ride with you?:D

[Rene]

I gotta hook up with you guys sometime at Mainland--never been. Ill be doing Mainland tomorrow, if it doesnt rain if youre interested, Cornell. I have a pretty nice little loop going, if the F$%*@#g contractors didnt destroy it. Ill be heading out to Olde Village drive at about 5:30.

[Big T]

My car died and I carpool to work with my wife, so after work rides at Cibolo are out. Wish I could change that, but that's where I am at right now. After work rides at OP, Mainland and sometimes MsAllister are a go, but I have to run by the house and drop off my wife first.

We do have to hook up. I have a feeling with Mainland getting smaller, the trails at OP and Leon Creek are going to be getting bigger and better. The potential is there and a ton of ground work has already been done. I think the ride from OP, to Leon Creek, to Mainland will be a hot ride when everything is in place. Its already been one of the better kept secrets for quite a while.

Mike and I talk about you all the time. Just wondering what was up with that crazy, beer brewing, naked guy at 700 Acres watching, dude.

Really, we'd just like to hook up with you on some of the north side's trails. Let me know when you want to hook up. On weekends we try to get going by 8:30, and as the heat gets worse 8:00. Evenings, I can ride after 7:00.

[aLaN]

Originally posted by Big T
Ruben over at Ride Away was already looking into Rock Shox and Marzocchi replacements that would be better quality than what I had


MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm Marzocchi!

[chief]

why is everybody posting stuff here that is totally irrelevant to the main subject?!

[Big T]

Do you really need to ask?

[aLaN]

Originally posted by chief
why is everybody posting stuff here that is totally irrelevant to the main subject?!



You should know by now.....

when you open a thread with more than 4 or 5 replies that the subject at the bottom of the thread has changed several times.

[Rene]

why is everybody posting stuff here that is totally irrelevant to the main subject?! Because this is Bike Mojo. We post whatever the f%$% we want!

[Chris aka Killer]

Hey did you guys know that the formula for calculating dog years has changed? It is no longer a simple multiplication by 7. How come nobody tells me these things.

[carlos]

also, worth mentioning, pluto is not a planet!

[admin]

Originally posted by carlos
also, worth mentioning, pluto is not a planet!
And Puto is not Chief....

[Bad Attitude=Michael]

Originally posted by Chris aka Killer
Hey did you guys know that the formula for calculating dog years has changed? It is no longer a simple multiplication by 7. How come nobody tells me these things.

Wow! that came out of left field. hehehehe :D

[Bad Attitude=Michael]

Here's one...if the germans had superman during WWII do you think they would've won? :D

[dan]

Originally posted by Bad Attitude=Michael
Here's one...if the germans had superman during WWII do you think they would've won? :D

No way, BA. The Allied Forces knew all about Kryptonite and had plenty of it stockpiled, so they would have had a little sumpthin for the Big S dude if he ever started acting up.:p

[Strieber]

How come you never see baby pigeons?

[Big T]

Is it going to rain tonight?

[admin]

Originally posted by Bad Attitude=Michael
Here's one...if the germans had superman during WWII do you think they would've won? :D
Ya! He woot haf bin kald "UberMan".

[Rene]

If goose are geese, shouldnt moose be meese?

[dan]

Originally posted by Rene
If goose are geese, shouldnt moose be meese?

Absolutely! ......and ducks be dicks?

Anybody remember the old 60's song called The Name Game? That was good adolescent fun! Let's do Chuck............:eek:

[Big T]

I think we all need to write Manitou about these pressing concerns. Then all of the links will relate to each other.

Lessee...

Dear Mr. Manitou:

Are two moose, meese? Is there a man on the moon? Can you make forks that shoot the spring at the enemy instead of the rider?

What a great race tactic. I'll order a set and start taking out the competition tomorrow. Who wants to ride and be my first drive by drive-by, spring-shooting victim?

[dan]

Originally posted by Big T
I think we all need to write Manitou about these pressing concerns. Then all of the links will relate to each other.

Lessee...

Dear Mr. Manitou:

Are two moose, meese? Is there a man on the moon? Can you make forks that shoot the spring at the enemy instead of the rider?

What a great race tactic. I'll order a set and start taking out the competition tomorrow. Who wants to ride and be my first drive by drive-by, spring-shooting victim?

....And if Mr. Manitou has two forks and his first name is Hugh, then what would his name be if he had three forks?

OK, now

this isn't

so tough

to

figure out

that you

would

call him.......


HUGH MANITEE

(Sorry for that. It's been a long, long day. I better call Dr. Frank)

[chief]

aaaaaaah, suck intellect! alan was right!

[aLaN]

Just to keep the miss match going......

Check out this following link to a TMBRA thread....

http://www.tmbra.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000879


While I was reading it I was reminiscing about the early days of Mojo. Soooo long ago it was. Anyway check out these guys just finally figuring out what a bike board should look like!

[Big T]

Very much like the early days 6 or 7 months ago. BikeMojo picked up steam quicker than I ever imagined it would. The ride has been fun.

[carlos]

why is it that when i pick my nose and roll the booger between my fingers it diappears? didn't copperfeild do this trick while standing in a pool of acid? well....he should have!

[chief]

that's really nice carlos!

[carlos]

its a great crowd pleaser a parties and social functions where everyone is bombed. you'll be in like........like Larry Flynt.

or what about Ovalteen? the can is round, the glass is round. they should call it Roundteen.

Grape Nuts. Open the box, no grapes, no nuts.

(any seifeld fans?)

[Big T]

Next time one of your rolled boogers disappear, stand in front of a mirror and open your mouth. Sounds like subconscious swallowing to me. If you see the little nugget on your tongue, then you know you will not be low on protein for the next 15 minutes. Of course three or four big rolled boogers a day keep the doctor away (and girlfriends).

Good luck with your congealed mucus experiments.

[Big T]

Why are they called Russians? They don't seem in a hurry to me.

[carlos]

girlfriends? the kind that ride hard? no? then i've already lost interest.

maybe one day i'll booger-roll my way to a magical place where there is an abundance of non-racer women who ride hard.

[Big T]

Non racer, bike babes. You need to hang around the BMXers. Get yourself a nice bike babe like Tara Llanes and rule the dirt together.

[carlos]

unfortunatly, for me, she races. i'll hold out.

[dan]

Originally posted by chief
aaaaaaah, suck intellect! alan was right!

Is this a tag team insult???:o

[aLaN]

Originally posted by dan


Is this a tag team insult???:o


No Dan, this is not meant as an insult. But in no way does Bike MoJo resemble the Mensa Forum!

http://www.mensa.org/


My god, we go to meetings, drink beer and brag about getting hit in the head by trees or exploding shocks!

[dan]

Originally posted by aLaN
My god, we go to meetings, drink beer and brag about getting hit in the head by trees or exploding shocks!



Yep, and we can all laugh at others as well as ourselves. That's the beauty of this board. It's seriously non-serious!!! Chief's post gave me a good chuckle - nothing more.:D

[aLaN]

there are lots of weird websites out there besides this one.....

http://www.geocities.com/asianprince213/

[Big T]

I don't know Alan. I thought there was a certain level of intelligence in conversing about skullectemies and lobotomies. Of course, too many more of these incidents and I won't be able to hold my own when talking to 4 year-olds. I can already feel the dead brain cells that were shaken loose rattling around in my head...:confused:

[aLaN]

Originally posted by Big T
I don't know Alan. I thought there was a certain level of intelligence in conversing about skullectemies and lobotomies. Of course, too many more of these incidents and I won't be able to hold my own when talking to 4 year-olds. I can already feel the dead brain cells that were shaken loose rattling around in my head...:confused:


Well listen to you all.... "a certain level of intelligence in conversing...";)


try the Mensa challenge then.:confused:

http://www.mensa.org/workout2.html?

By the way, this is not one of Chiefs little tests.

[Big T]

LITTLE TESTS. My life revolves around those LITTLE TESTS bubba. Damn Canadians. Think they can come over here and tell us which tests to take.

Doesn't mensa mean liar in Spanish.

:D

[chief]

Originally posted by aLaN


By the way, this is not one of Chiefs little tests.

hey dumbass! my tests are used more by professionals as analytical tools to assess patients. most of these tests seem like fun and games, but they do serve a purpose. dumbass!

[carlos]

Originally posted by aLaN



No Dan, this is not meant as an insult. But in no way does Bike MoJo resemble the Mensa Forum!

http://www.mensa.org/



ya know....mensa, in spanish, is slang for a stupid woman.

i just though that was weird.

[chief]

WORD!

[T__]

In the vein of old threads, here's the one where I was given the cash by ManTool to buy my first real sweet bike. I almost lost an eye to get it, but it was fate as I purchased a Santa Cruz SuperLight from my bud that owns Santa Cruz Bicycles. I'm now on a Heckler and soon to be on a VPP 8" Freerider. Santa Cruz bikes have been super reliable for me on the trails.

This seems like an eternity ago, but it really wasn't that long ago at all. It's a little long, but enjoy the reading newbies.

[LongArm]

......I am still using that Manipoo Super Xvert from "T".....with no problems or adjustments. I got a sweet deal from "T" with the frame and fork of my "Biotch". I think I would have stopped riding without those upgrades. Just goes to show ya that a little MoJo trading can keep anyone in the sport.....one man's trash is another man's treasure. :D :D :D