View Full Version : cross canti brakes
Dave K
06-08-2004, 06:07 PM
I used the Tektro Onyx. very cheap and fairly effective. Maybe a bit heavy, and maybe not the most braking power.
Other cheap ones are the Avid Shorty 4, 6 or 8(ti). Someone said they had a problem squealing.
I was thinking about these Empella Frogglegs (http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cyclocrossworld/emfrogcrosbr.html) as an upgrade. Other options are the Paul Neoretro, Spooky and Shimano make some I know little about.
Any opinions?
Wumpus
06-09-2004, 08:25 AM
I have/am using the avids with no issues. I believe aLaN has a pair on one of his bikes. Any brake will squeal if it isn't set up right.
Scott Mc.
06-09-2004, 08:23 PM
Shoot I like my tektros. If I was gonna spend upgrade dollars I am thinking wheelset, bar tape, saddle or maybe even shifter levers. Don't get me wrong, brakes are important but not sure how good the "bang for your buck" would be. My 2cents.
Hello Kitty
06-23-2004, 12:52 PM
i got avids on my CX bike right now and they work fine but thinking of upping the chi-chi factor.
http://store6.yimg.com/I/cyclocrossworld_1763_4585087
Spooky Carbon
Get these super light weight brakes that the Rabobank team used exclusively last season. Priced as front and rear pair. Comes with Black Ritchey pads, stainless steel hardware, straddle carriers and straddle cables. 212g.
Scary Mc
07-12-2004, 02:49 PM
XTR V-brakes w/ Travel Agents.
Hello Kitty
07-12-2004, 03:15 PM
XTR V-brakes w/ Travel Agents.
not a lotta leverage with that set up but i guess if you already have the v-brakes the travel agent addition is cheap way to go.
eBay has cheap cyclocross stuff i suggest you look there
Dave K
09-16-2004, 02:30 PM
any experiences with Paul's, Empella, Spooky or Shimano's new canti?
here's a website for canti brake setup:
http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-adjustment.html
Hello Kitty
09-16-2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.bikeman.com/images/bikeman/cyclocross/techimages/2004sept6widehangerB.jpg
Canti Brake Setup, The Wide Hanger.
By: Wally Wallace
Cantilever brake setup has become a lost technical skill saved only by the cyclocross bike. Thanks to the UCI, disc brakes are not legal for use in sanctioned cyclocross races leaving us the with the classic cantilever brakes as the best stopping option. One of the most useful innovations to help with canti set up is the extra wide cable hanger.
With standard style canti brakes, like the Avid Shortys, in order to get positive power and modulation you would have to set the pads up very close to the rims. This is fine for dry days when mud is not a concern, but lets face it Cross is all about the bad weather and getting dirty.
In search of a solution we cane across the Salsa Extra Wide canti hanger. At 50mm wide this hanger looks like nothing we had ever seen. The concept is spot on, pulling more cable is going to change the brake setup, modulation, and power.
The first noticeable difference with the Salsa hanger is in the setup. We were able to set the hanger much closer to the tire, even with the Mafac style brakes. While in setup terms this may sound trivial dealing with a shorter cable is easier than setting your cable hanger 4 inches off the tire. Also in theory there will be less flex - stretch with a shorter cable.
By pulling more cable you are able to space the pads away from the rim with no loss of power and modulation. The brake setup in the above picture shows the hanger set up with Paul Neo Retro canti brakes. With this setup we where able to get a quarter inch pad to rim clearance with a firm feel at the brake lever.
The real proof is in the ride. Several of our Team Bikeman riders rode with the Salsa Hangers last season and had nothing but good things to say. There were no reports of the levers bottoming out leaving you brakeless on a scetchy off camber decent. The brakes ramp up better and have a firm feel at the lever. A great choice for the cross fanatic or canti brake retro grouch
NOTE :this set up has gotten much dissagreement over at the teamsmack.org website
Scary Mc
09-16-2004, 06:00 PM
not a lotta leverage with that set up
Huh? Works fine for me as a townie.
Parker
09-16-2004, 11:20 PM
http://www.bikeman.com/images/bikeman/cyclocross/techimages/2004sept6widehangerB.jpg
Canti Brake Setup, The Wide Hanger.
By: Wally Wallace
Cantilever brake setup has become a lost technical skill saved only by the cyclocross bike. Thanks to the UCI, disc brakes are not legal for use in sanctioned cyclocross races leaving us the with the classic cantilever brakes as the best stopping option. One of the most useful innovations to help with canti set up is the extra wide cable hanger.
With standard style canti brakes, like the Avid Shortys, in order to get positive power and modulation you would have to set the pads up very close to the rims. This is fine for dry days when mud is not a concern, but lets face it Cross is all about the bad weather and getting dirty.
In search of a solution we cane across the Salsa Extra Wide canti hanger. At 50mm wide this hanger looks like nothing we had ever seen. The concept is spot on, pulling more cable is going to change the brake setup, modulation, and power.
The first noticeable difference with the Salsa hanger is in the setup. We were able to set the hanger much closer to the tire, even with the Mafac style brakes. While in setup terms this may sound trivial dealing with a shorter cable is easier than setting your cable hanger 4 inches off the tire. Also in theory there will be less flex - stretch with a shorter cable.
By pulling more cable you are able to space the pads away from the rim with no loss of power and modulation. The brake setup in the above picture shows the hanger set up with Paul Neo Retro canti brakes. With this setup we where able to get a quarter inch pad to rim clearance with a firm feel at the brake lever.
The real proof is in the ride. Several of our Team Bikeman riders rode with the Salsa Hangers last season and had nothing but good things to say. There were no reports of the levers bottoming out leaving you brakeless on a scetchy off camber decent. The brakes ramp up better and have a firm feel at the lever. A great choice for the cross fanatic or canti brake retro grouch
NOTE :this set up has gotten much dissagreement over at the teamsmack.org website
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